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Posted on 6/23/10 at 4:42 pm
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
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Posted on 6/23/10 at 4:42 pm
Dolo
Demerit
Boca
Bornstein(did well today, and I think Gooch may be more of a liability)

Donovan
Bradley
Edu
Feilhaber(played very well last 2 matches)

Dempsey
Altidore

I think we found the solution to our second striker problem with this lineup. Feilhaber has been playing well and creates chances from the MF for us, and IMO, Edu/Bradley combo in the middle is the best for us. They have been playing well together.


What ya got?
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31893 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 4:49 pm to
We have 8 untouchable players now: Howard, Cherundolo, DeMerit, Bocanegra, Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, and Jozy. The other three spots are still up for grabs in my opinion.

I am honestly not sure what to do with the other three spots. I think we should keep Edu at DM for the Ghana game. I am totally undecided on what to do for the defense. Should we use Bornstein again and go with Bocanegra in the center, or should we do what we did in the first 2 games?

I have no idea. Our defense didn't look much better today, and any improvement can be attributed to playing a team that didn't score in the Cup. ON the other hand, Bornstein is quick and will prevent left wing players from attacking down the flank as easily. Of course, he usually commits 2-3 poor clearances and 2-3 card worthy fouls in a 90 minute period and I am not going to hold my breath that he can 180 minutes without either of those.

And for the final spot, I again don't know. We can use Benny in the midfield and do a 4-5-1/4-3-3 or we can use one of the forwards to partner with Jozy. I would go with Gomez and if we aren't dominating at halftime, sub Benny in for him.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:00 pm to
I like Edu in the center bc he and Bradley have been playing well together, and we don't want to kill our chemistry right now.

I think Dempsey gives us a legit scoring threat to go with Jozy up top. Or we could put him back out wide and play Feilhaber as a withdrawn striker.

The only reason I would start Bornstein is bc, like I said, Gooch may be more of a liability for us right now and our other backs are unproven on this stage.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:04 pm to
Would Bob dare start Goodson vs. Ghana or was he impressed enough with Bornstein and Boca in the middle?

Goodson = Wildcard
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:05 pm to
I am loving Feilhaber coming off the bench. He looked a step ahead of the Algerians when he had the ball by the 65th minute

I also believe the Buddle + Altidore combination made us the most dangerous

Dolo
Bocanegra
Demerit
Spector

Dempsey
Edu
Bradley
Donovan

Altidore
Buddle

Subs: Feilhaber, Onyewu, Findley
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:07 pm to
I hate to say this, but I like starting Bornstein. Mainly because it moves Boca to the center. He is usually our best defender, but he's been lousy at left back. If we move him to center, we get our best defender playing his natural position. Boca had his first good game today. Even if Bornstein is below average at left back, that's what Boca was giving us, so its no downgrade. And Boca over Gooch is huge.
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:07 pm to
Spector > Bornstein IMO
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:08 pm to
I doubt it. Benny did well in moments. I'd still like to see Stuhawk or José in a 3 man midfield. I think bob has done a good job though.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Spector > Bornstein IMO
Probably, but I don't see that happening. Hell, it seems DMB is more likely to start than Spector.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:39 pm to
He won't start Spector, and if he used DMB over Stu today, I doubt he uses him Saturday.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:40 pm to
He used DMB to play a leftwing back role. Stu doesn't defend as well as the bease
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:46 pm to
True. And I would love to see Stu also, I just honestly don't think it will happen. As for Jose, I didn't think he was that impressive, and his size may be a liability.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

I hate to say this, but I like starting Bornstein. Mainly because it moves Boca to the center. He is usually our best defender, but he's been lousy at left back. If we move him to center, we get our best defender playing his natural position. Boca had his first good game today. Even if Bornstein is below average at left back, that's what Boca was giving us, so its no downgrade. And Boca over Gooch is huge.


Except Ghana is far too athletic to take advantage of Bornstein pushing up too much. He was caught a few times by Algeria. Didn't amount to anything, but you don't want to rely on that.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:03 pm to
So would you rather Bornstein or Gooch playing?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

So would you rather Bornstein or Gooch playing?



Well, if Bob is playing to push the wing backs up, which is what he was going for today, I would rather Spector who has a step or two on Bornstein.

If we aren't playing to push them up far, then start Gooch. Bornstein was ok today because he added pressure, but as a strict defender, he's not all that good.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Didn't amount to anything, but you don't want to rely on that.


Exactly. Against a decent attacking team, he'll almost certainly "create" 2 or 3 chances for them by badly overcommitting. He was ok today, but he still gifted at least one clear chance early in the game.

I dont know WHY Stuhawk hasn't gotten any PT. Every time he's been on the field for the last year, he's been one of our best players.

And I must be the only person who wasn't impressed with Feilhaber today. I need to rewatch the match.

I think we're doing it backwards by starting Gomez and bringing in Buddle. Buddle looks so much more comfortable on the ball. Really, he does as good a job as Jozy of holding the ball.

What we NEED in order to make a run is for Jozy to score goals.
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I dont know WHY Stuhawk hasn't gotten any PT. Every time he's been on the field for the last year, he's been one of our best players.


Agreed. Especially when we want to move Dempsey up. Stu is perfect on the outside.

quote:

And I must be the only person who wasn't impressed with Feilhaber today. I need to rewatch the match.


I was more impressed today than against Slovenia, but I think he was serviceable, not great. I think there are better options. Like I said before, he plops Torres in the start with no defensive help last time. Torres did horrible, but he was obviously the next go to guy for Bob. So instead of giving him the chance when you want to play with 3 CM's, you give it to Benny? Someone made a good point about his size not matching up today, but still....

quote:

What we NEED in order to make a run is for Jozy to score goals.


This x100000

Now how do we do that? No one has shown particular synergy up top with Jozy, not even Dempsey. Bob won't get really creative (like putting Torres or Stu up top playing behind Jozy), but we have to get him started somehow. He has been a good catalyst though.

This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 6:18 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:50 pm to
José showed some nerves and didn't have a stopper behind him. IMO he's a better player than Feilhaber. I think Benny has regressed since he was getting all kinds of pt and moved to Derby County.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 6:59 pm to
We may be better off having Stu out wide and Dempsey up top. We need a scoring threat, and although Dempsey didn't score, he was hitting the target the whole time he was up top. Also, I don't know if we defend well enough to play with just Jozy up top.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5108 posts
Posted on 6/23/10 at 7:04 pm to
I think Buddle and Jozy is our best combo up top. They're similar, but can make runs and are comfortable on the ball. I think these 2 up top allows Dempsey and Landon more freedom and gives us more scoring opportunities.
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