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Rondo's travel last game
Posted by RelientAA on 5/24/10 at 9:09 am00
Does anybody remember Rondo diving for the ball by Jason Williams? He picked up the ball and got up on his feet without dribbling. In any other level of basketball this is a travel but apparently not in the NBA. Since When?
re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by dockstar99 on 5/24/10 at 9:11 am to RelientAA
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In any other level of basketball this is a travel but apparently not in the NBA. Since When?
Does the NBA even call traveling???
I thought they did away with that rule years ago
re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by RelientAA on 5/24/10 at 9:14 am to dockstar99
That is what I thought at first. But in their rule book it actually states that specific incident is not a travel.
re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by bwallcubfan on 5/24/10 at 9:24 am to RelientAA
I think if he had picked the ball up as he was getting off the floor, it would have been a travel. But since he pinned the ball to the floor, stood up, then picked the ball off the floor, I think it's legit.
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This is an example of LEGAL play by an offensive player in possession of the ball. When in possession of the ball while on the floor, an offensive player is permitted to stand up, establish a pivot foot and resume play. Here, the offensive player loses the ball and then regains possession after going to the floor. He then regains his feet, establishes his pivot and resumes play. This is a legal play
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re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by bwallcubfan on 5/24/10 at 9:27 am to bwallcubfan
Section XIV-Traveling
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the time he receives it.
(2) As the foot touches the floor, or as both feet touch the floor simultane- ously after he receives the ball, if both feet are off the floor when he receives it.
The second occurs:
(1) After the count of one when either foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
c. A player who comes to a stop on the count of one may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
d. A player who comes to a stop on the count of two, with one foot in advance of the other, may pivot using only the rear foot as the pivot foot.
e. A player who comes to a stop on the count of two, with neither foot in advance of the other, may use either foot as the pivot foot.
f. In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.
g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
h. A player who falls to the floor while holding the ball, or while coming to a stop, may not gain an advantage by sliding.
i. A player who attempts a field goal may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, basket ring or another player.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the sideline, nearest spot of the violation but no nearer the baseline than the foul line extended.
It doesn't say anything about what Rondo did.
This post was edited on 5/24 at 9:29 am
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This is an example of LEGAL play by an offensive player in possession of the ball. When in possession of the ball while on the floor, an offensive player is permitted to stand up, establish a pivot foot and resume play. Here, the offensive player loses the ball and then regains possession after going to the floor. He then regains his feet, establishes his pivot and resumes play. This is a legal play
This makes alot of sense
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re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by RelientAA on 5/24/10 at 9:30 am to bwallcubfan
Read my post. It talks about that specific situation where he picks the ball up and establishes a pivot foot. In any other level of basketball that is a travel. This does not talk about him pinning the ball on the ground which is not illegal.
re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by bwallcubfan on 5/24/10 at 9:42 am to RelientAA
Thanks for the link.
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it was a very, very smart play on his part
ehh probably more instincts. But want I want to konw is why the NBA changed this rule where you CAN pick up the ball THEN get up and establish your pivot foot. Thats just stupid.
No I get what you are saying. I just didnt remember him keeping the ball on the floor. I am saying the rule states you can pick the ball up then get up and establish a pivot foot, which is not what rondo did. And this is not legal anywhere else. Why did they change it?
re: Rondo's travel last gamePosted by bwallcubfan on 5/24/10 at 10:43 am to slim thug
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he pushed himself up on his feet and kept the ball touching the floor
once his feet were set, he picked the ball up and made a move
totally legit
According to the rule, it didn't matter if he kept the ball on the floor or not. It's not a travel even if he picked the ball up before he stood up.
I don't know why this is...but that's the rule.
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