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Posted on 12/26/09 at 4:04 pm
Posted by FootballHog
Member since Nov 2006
7694 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 4:04 pm
I just got one for Christmas. Do older movies such as Terminator and Star Wars(has it been released yet?) look significantly better? Or is it best to just go with the newer released movies?

Posted by JPH77
Mobile, Alabama
Member since May 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 4:05 pm to
Any movie shot with 35 mm film can be turned into a HD movie. So even a movie that was made many years ago can be turned into a HD movie.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 7:50 pm to
I bought christmas vacation on bluray and popped in the original first to show some friends the difference. I popped in the bluray and there was no difference at all. Basically older movies are just going to have the sound modified to tru hd. Be cautious on buying older movies in some you cant tell a difference.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 8:00 pm to
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Basically older movies are just going to have the sound modified to tru hd.


Huh? Ummm, no. Whatever surround sound processing is on the disc is what will be played provided you have a surround sound system for playback.

The appearance of older movies will depend on the transfer. If it was a great transfer then the upconversion will look better. If it was a crappy transfer then it won't look any better.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Huh? Ummm, no. Whatever surround sound processing is on the disc is what will be played provided you have a surround sound system for playback.

Well considering bluray is all converted into true HD sound is how its going to be played. Go ahead look it up.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:28 pm to
The sound is transmitted over HDMI. The track that is played is the track that is recorded on the disc.

BTW, I design and sell home theaters and home automations systems and have done so for about 20 years. I think I know how surround sound processing works.

Just in case you still don't believe me here is the information from the BluRay FAQ. Please note that all the HD Audio codecs are optional while the traditional Dolby Digital and DTS formats are mandatory. Also note that "True HD Sound" as you put it is not a format at all. Thank you for participating.

"What audio codecs will Blu-ray support?

Linear PCM (LPCM) - up to 8 channels of uncompressed audio. (mandatory)
Dolby Digital (DD) - format used for DVDs, 5.1-channel surround sound. (mandatory)
Dolby Digital Plus (DD+) - extension of Dolby Digital, 7.1-channel surround sound. (optional)
Dolby TrueHD - lossless encoding of up to 8 channels of audio. (optional)
DTS Digital Surround - format used for DVDs, 5.1-channel surround sound. (mandatory)
DTS-HD High Resolution Audio - extension of DTS, 7.1-channel surround sound. (optional)
DTS-HD Master Audio - lossless encoding of up to 8 channels of audio. (optional)

Please note that this simply means that Blu-ray players and recorders will have to support playback of these audio codecs, it will still be up to the movie studios to decide which audio codec(s) they use for their releases."
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:37 pm to
Not trying to be a dick. I was going back to the older time movies that dont have the best quality. I didnt think Bluray would leave the sound that movies 90s and back the way they were. I thought they would upconvert the sound to DBHD or some other hd.
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:38 pm to
Older movies usually depend on the studio that produces them. Some studios put little work into converting the film to HD, some put a lot of work.

For instance, Bonnie and Clyde from the 50s looks great, but as someone said even a movie 30 years later than that, Christmas Vacation, looks the same as an upconverted DVD.

Check DVD Talk or AVS Forums for reviews. But you still have to be careful with those cause some of those people are really, really, picky.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:38 pm to
And I am aware True HD sound isnt an option I was stating that as DBHD or other HD sound options.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Older movies usually depend on the studio that produces them. Some studios put little work into converting the film to HD, some put a lot of work.

I was pissed when i bought Christmas vacation for 40 dollars and all i got out of it was an HD sound option.
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:44 pm to
Why'd you pay $40?!
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:48 pm to
My parents old dvd player broke and they got con'd into a blu ray when the guy came out to the house to look at it. I knew I probably should have been there to help. Well they wanted that movie on bluray so thats what i bought it was the last one in the store.
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3234 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:50 pm to
One thing I've noticed is that new DVD's PQ standards have been downgraded since BR arrived. You can really tell the difference when you get a BR movie that has a standard DVD version packaged with it.

I think the studios are doing this to boost BR sales.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
107733 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:50 pm to
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Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

I didnt think Bluray would leave the sound that movies 90s and back the way they were.


Wow. Believe it or not the vast majority of those movies from the 90s (and a lot of them before that) had great audio tracks and recording. Dolby Digital debuted in 1992 and DTS in 1993 with Jurassic Park.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Wow. Believe it or not the vast majority of those movies from the 90s (and a lot of them before that) had great audio tracks and recording. Dolby Digital debuted in 1992 and DTS in 1993 with Jurassic Park.

This guy knows his stuff

Do you deal with Denon recievers i have a couple questions if so.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:56 pm to
I do. Feel free to ask away. BTW, nothing personal on the corrections. I just like to see the facts stated correctly.
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 10:02 pm to
I have one of the 700 series not sure which. Is there a way to reset it completely. Somehow my 3 quick selects are all programmed to the same thing and no matter what i do i cant change them. Also I cant seem to get me component cables to work. I can get sound but I cant see the image.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 10:22 pm to
Post the model number and I'll do some research. How old is the receiver?
Posted by Geebs19
Iowa
Member since Sep 2006
9764 posts
Posted on 12/26/09 at 11:25 pm to
Denon 790 Bout 6 months.
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