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Trying to be objective; Defense may struggle all year
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:36 am
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:36 am
Ok guys, don't blast me call me a "negatiger" or whatever but, the two problems on the defense or:
1) adjusting to a new coordinator and
2) a weaker than normal def. line
It may take a year or two for Chavis to get the Defense back to where it was. For whatever reason (some on this board may know) there seems to be a drop-off in the talent on the def line this year.
Just asking... did Saban push some players who were good athletes to defense?
1) adjusting to a new coordinator and
2) a weaker than normal def. line
It may take a year or two for Chavis to get the Defense back to where it was. For whatever reason (some on this board may know) there seems to be a drop-off in the talent on the def line this year.
Just asking... did Saban push some players who were good athletes to defense?
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Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:39 am to GA Tiger
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Just asking... did Saban push some players who were good athletes to defense?
Marcus Spears is one example. I think he was supposed to be a TE when he 1st got here. I don't think there's a whole lot more examples though. And I think these:
quote:
1) adjusting to a new coordinator and
2) a weaker than normal def. line
are valid concerns. We'll see how it all plays out, though.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:40 am to GA Tiger
If mememory serves me Saban did move alot of the better atheletes to D. He had no problem converting o lineman,slimming the down and putting them on the d line. PS. If this doesn't tighten up and we give up some 50+ points I am gonna freakin go nuts.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:43 am to Ringeaux
Corey Webster used to be a WR.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:44 am to Ringeaux
My point is, because Saban was a def oriented coach, he took some athletes and move them to D which made the def strong. I'm guessing because Miles is an offensive oriented coach, he might push some to offense. In doing so, may have lowered the talent level on def. Just guessing
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:45 am to Hot Carl
I just don't see why our D line is "weaker then normal". What is going on with that?
Alexander was the other tackle next to Dorsey on one of our strongest lines ever a few years back. Nevis looked like "The next great LSU lineman" whenever he came in that season. Woods was a 5 star guy out of high school who was supposed to be better then all of these guys. Downs....... somehow looked like he would be the best of all of these guys as a true freshman last week.
Alem made one of the "All SEC" teams last year as a back up.
Is Levingston getting pushed for that starting role?
Alexander was the other tackle next to Dorsey on one of our strongest lines ever a few years back. Nevis looked like "The next great LSU lineman" whenever he came in that season. Woods was a 5 star guy out of high school who was supposed to be better then all of these guys. Downs....... somehow looked like he would be the best of all of these guys as a true freshman last week.
Alem made one of the "All SEC" teams last year as a back up.
Is Levingston getting pushed for that starting role?
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:48 am to GA Tiger
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I'm guessing because Miles is an offensive oriented coach, he might push some to offense. In doing so, may have lowered the talent level on def. Just guessing
I know Miles has moved some defensive linemen to the offensive line, but most were not good enough on defense to really contribute. However, just this year he took Morris Claiborne and put him at CB instead of WR.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:48 am to Palm Beach Tiger
Palm Beach Tiger... don't know the answer to your questions. A guy told me last night the strength of the def this year is secondary. Scary. So, everyone gets 5 to 10 yards before they get to the cornerbacks? Just kidding.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:52 am to GA Tiger
Jack Hunt wasn't what I would consider "good" on offense but he did make a crucial first down catch which led to LSU beating Bama at home for the first time in 30 years in 2000. And then we all know the rest of his history on defense.
Unfortunately, Jim Hawthorne never received the memo in 2002.
Unfortunately, Jim Hawthorne never received the memo in 2002.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 7:55 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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I just don't see why our D line is "weaker then normal". What is going on with that?
I think Woods not turning out as good as we thought hurt a bit. And pretty much the entire 2nd/3rd teams are made up of true or RS Freshmen. As good as he is, I think Nevis is about 10 lbs away from being really explosive and dominant. I was disappointed to see him so fat. Levingston is probably slowed a little bit by his broken and casted wrist. (I think he's out for today's game, though). If some of the young guys step up, it's still possible DL winds up a strength. But right now, it's a question mark at best.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:08 am to Hot Carl
I'm going to butcher this, but did Argayere (sp) get in last week? I didn't look for him last week, but was excited about him when he committed to us.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:10 am to GA Tiger
quote:
Trying to be objective; Defense may struggle all year
This
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:14 am to GA Tiger
Seems to me Saban's best defensive years here had more to do with a complex scheme and the players ability to understand it.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:16 am to GA Tiger
Yes Saban did. You're just a Saban shoeshine boy. 
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:22 am to GA Tiger
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2) a weaker than normal def. line
Corrected: 2.) A heavier and slower than normal defensive line.
As quick as we became an elite program (after Title #2), we fell out of that club with a 3-5 SEC record the following season. Excuses will not fly. There will always be parts of the team that are stronger than others, but for anyone of them to be labeled as "struggling" is unacceptable at this point.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:31 am to GA Tiger
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a weaker than normal def. line
really?
based on what? we have 4 good athletes on the D-Line, they have played 1 game together this year, and one bad half, so what are basing your assumptions on?
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:37 am to ultratiger89
is your name pronounced Gay Tiger?
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:38 am to GA Tiger
Depends on your expectations. We won't dominate like in 03, but we'll be fine. I think the game today will tell us if UW was par for us or a fluke. We played well in the 2nd half last week.
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:40 am to cggeaxtigers
we gave up 170 yards to an offense with a QB and a RB
Posted on 9/12/09 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, but a lot of that was on the last drive in Prevent D mode - trying to run out the clock.
Locker also scrambled for the first on a lot of 3rd and 2's. We were pretty much conceding that.
Locker also scrambled for the first on a lot of 3rd and 2's. We were pretty much conceding that.
This post was edited on 9/12/09 at 8:43 am
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