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Blu-Ray being killed by HDDVD. Not a repeat from 2007
Posted on 8/4/09 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 8/4/09 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 8/4/09 at 11:52 pm to Rhetoric
Chinese manufactures have bought Toshiba's HD-DVD technology, called it China Blue High Definition(CHBD) and are out-selling Blu-ray by 3-1 in China.
In 12 months they predict CHBD will be the unit world leader in HD optical technology
In 12 months they predict CHBD will be the unit world leader in HD optical technology
Posted on 8/5/09 at 12:12 am to tigerguy121
I have a Toshiba HD DVD MOvie Magic player. I bought it about a year before HDDVD went under.
This is good for me, right?
This is good for me, right?
Posted on 8/5/09 at 1:35 am to tigerguy121
blu ray is not being killed.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 2:07 am to Acreboy
Blu Ray wont be killed, especially if thats what hollywood is going for and blockbuster already decided it.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 7:09 am to Geebs19
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Blu Ray wont be killed, especially if thats what hollywood is going for and blockbuster already decided it.
This
Posted on 8/5/09 at 7:12 am to tigerguy121
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China Blue High Definition(CHBD)
Probably toxic
Posted on 8/5/09 at 7:25 am to tigerguy121
So you are telling me a DVD player called CHINA Blue High Def is doing well in Chinca? Crazy, would never have thought that.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 8:10 am to Acreboy
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blu ray is not being killed.
hard to kill something thats already dead
Posted on 8/5/09 at 8:17 am to CAD703X
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hard to kill something thats already dead
this
with downloadable movies and the advanced compression for HD content, blu ray is on it's deathbed
Posted on 8/5/09 at 8:52 am to Loubacca
So their going to flood the american market with bootleg HD DVD's
Posted on 8/5/09 at 9:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
This is like watching two dinosaurs battle as a planet sized meteor enters the atmosphere.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 9:58 am to Fewer Kilometers
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This is like watching two dinosaurs battle as a planet sized meteor enters the atmosphere.
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with downloadable movies and the advanced compression for HD content, blu ray is on it's deathbed
Thought I was the only one saying it in the other thread.
This post was edited on 8/5/09 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/5/09 at 10:02 am to Freauxzen
I forbid my kids to waste their money on any Blu-Ray DVD's. Our rental deals cover Blu-Ray, just go that route.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 10:25 am to Fewer Kilometers
I pay my extra $2 per month to NetFlix for BluRay that I am happy with.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 11:56 am to Fewer Kilometers
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This is like watching two dinosaurs battle as a planet sized meteor enters the atmosphere.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 2:28 pm to CAD703X
regardless of what you people are saying here, people want a hard copy of a movie. Digital distribution will take over for the most part, but as a counterpart for the physical media.
As much as downloadable content is awesome, if your drives crash, or you want to transport the movie/cd to someone else, just a digital copy alone isn't enough. You need the media to feel like you actually own something.
This is how it will end up: releases will be available for download at release time immediately, then there will be different price structures for various hard copies that will ship at a later date.
I love the digital distribution model, but you just have to have the actual media to hold in your hands.
As much as downloadable content is awesome, if your drives crash, or you want to transport the movie/cd to someone else, just a digital copy alone isn't enough. You need the media to feel like you actually own something.
This is how it will end up: releases will be available for download at release time immediately, then there will be different price structures for various hard copies that will ship at a later date.
I love the digital distribution model, but you just have to have the actual media to hold in your hands.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 2:38 pm to musick
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regardless of what you people are saying here, old people want a hard copy of a movie. Digital distribution will take over for the most part, but as a counterpart for the physical media.
Fixed.
Look, I clung to my CD's like a mad man. I loved them, never thought I would stop buying them. Fast forward 3 years, and I haven't bought a single CD (thank you itunes and amazon).
Old people will cling, the young adults-middle aged (my generation) may or may not change, but kids? They'll grow up with the choice of lugging around a bunch of old media, or a single 1 TB media machine that probably functions as their phone.
And I still own LP's, and yes I still do cling to those. But LP's are the only medium with some sort of nostalgic factor to them. Who the hell wants to own VHS anymore (and i STILL have some of those, Fawlty Towers and what not)?
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As much as downloadable content is awesome, if your drives crash, or you want to transport the movie/cd to someone else, just a digital copy alone isn't enough. You need the media to feel like you actually own something.
There are about 5 different and easy workarounds to this. I doubt we will always have our bought media on our own hard drive, merely the option to download and watch it anytime we want to.
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This is how it will end up: releases will be available for download at release time immediately, then there will be different price structures for various hard copies that will ship at a later date.
Agreed, but this will be the transition phase, from one to the other, over the course of time individual physical media will fade.
Look will individual physical media ALWAYS be around in some form? Sure. But as most people predict, it will not be the dominant form. Blu-Ray will never equal DVD in popularity. Ever.
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I love the digital distribution model, but you just have to have the actual media to hold in your hands.
And your age? I used to say the same thing.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 2:53 pm to Freauxzen
I'm 25.
I agree with most of what you said. Here's the thing: as soon as you take away the physical medium, it encourages piracy more than ever (it's bad enough as it is now)
People wont pay for 1's and 0's. It will be a matter of time before the industry is destroyed.
Look at what happened to the music industry. It's all but dead right now. Technology killed it. CD's became ripable and bandwidth got faster and faster. Fast forward 10 years and bands do not have any incentive to release a groundbreaking album anymore.
Why should they when the minute they release it, it's pirated (most of the time even before release). This shifts the main money making aspect of music to live touring and bands get burned out on that. A great life changing album has not been released exclusively with iTunes, and never will.
"Dude, did you download that awesome new movie yet?"
"No, I had errors with my ISP, they capped my bandwith for the month. I can't download it till next month."
Video killed the radio star, internet will kill the video star.
The future would be full of amatuers flooding the market with garbage. (think: youtube)
Now onto movies. Movies are following the music industries downfall very closely. Cinema has one huge advantage though. The difference with movies is, that the theater experience cannot be duplicated by 80-90% of consumers.
I actually lost where I was going with this post. I am a fan of digital distribution, but only along side physical media. This forces artists to put out a worthwhile product rather than spewing out garbage at an alarming rate.
I own the wall and dark side of the moon both on vinyl. Would those same albums have as much impact as .flac or .mp3 files with PDF artwork?
No.
I agree with most of what you said. Here's the thing: as soon as you take away the physical medium, it encourages piracy more than ever (it's bad enough as it is now)
People wont pay for 1's and 0's. It will be a matter of time before the industry is destroyed.
Look at what happened to the music industry. It's all but dead right now. Technology killed it. CD's became ripable and bandwidth got faster and faster. Fast forward 10 years and bands do not have any incentive to release a groundbreaking album anymore.
Why should they when the minute they release it, it's pirated (most of the time even before release). This shifts the main money making aspect of music to live touring and bands get burned out on that. A great life changing album has not been released exclusively with iTunes, and never will.
"Dude, did you download that awesome new movie yet?"
"No, I had errors with my ISP, they capped my bandwith for the month. I can't download it till next month."
Video killed the radio star, internet will kill the video star.
The future would be full of amatuers flooding the market with garbage. (think: youtube)
Now onto movies. Movies are following the music industries downfall very closely. Cinema has one huge advantage though. The difference with movies is, that the theater experience cannot be duplicated by 80-90% of consumers.
I actually lost where I was going with this post. I am a fan of digital distribution, but only along side physical media. This forces artists to put out a worthwhile product rather than spewing out garbage at an alarming rate.
I own the wall and dark side of the moon both on vinyl. Would those same albums have as much impact as .flac or .mp3 files with PDF artwork?
No.
This post was edited on 8/5/09 at 2:58 pm
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