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cenla tigah
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cenla
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grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use



whats the difference? recently had a vehicle stolen and the suspects were charged with unauthorized use. When I expressed my sentiments to the detective about why in the hell these guys werent charged with stealing as opposed to unaurhorized use, he said "they said they were going to return it before you got up, so I could only get them on the UU charge. Dont worry though, either one are felonies"

can any tell me the difference?







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ILikeLSUToo
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


WTF, does unauthorized use carry a lighter sentence? If so, that's BS.





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rebelJCL
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


For theft you have to PROVE the intent to permanently derpive





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SPEEDY
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


quote:

grand theft auto



no such criminal charge in the state of Louisiana






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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


exactly. I asked the detective, " so you go steal a vehicle, get caught, tell the arresting officers that you planned on returning it? WTH?" he said, "thats what we have to work with" figured i'd turn to my all knowing TD buddies for some clarification





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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


quote:

no such criminal charge in the state of Louisiana


its obvious i'm no lawyer, else I wouldnt be asking. Excuse my misphrase. Didnt the gist of what I asked click?






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SPEEDY
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


What is the blue book value of your car





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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


already knew mentioning make or model is grounds for cruxifiction





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SPEEDY
Lamar Fan
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


Is it more than $500? if so, it makes a difference as to which criminal charge is best





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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


k, at the risk of wrath, its an 06 bmw x3





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SPEEDY
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k, at the risk of wrath, its an 06 bmw x3



Then the unauthorized use actually carries a harsher penalty






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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


the hell u say





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SPEEDY
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


quote:

67.26. Theft of a motor vehicle

A. Theft of a motor vehicle is the intentional performance of any of the following acts:

(1) The taking of a motor vehicle, which belongs to another, either without the owner's consent or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices, or representations, with the intention to permanently deprive the owner of the motor vehicle



C.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of a motor vehicle when the misappropriation or taking amounts to a sum of five hundred dollars or more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.




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§68.4. Unauthorized use of a motor vehicle

A. Unauthorized use of a motor vehicle is the intentional taking or use of a motor vehicle which belongs to another, either without the other's consent, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices, or representations, but without any intention to deprive the other of the motor vehicle permanently.

B. Whoever commits the crime of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle shall be fined not more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than ten years or both.






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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


hmmmmm. Thanks. Hardly seems like enough difference to take the time to write up two different penalties.





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SPEEDY
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


Like it was said earlier in this thread, it is very hard to PROVE the intent to permanently deprive, which is what a theft is.









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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


ok, but I'm still confused. If it's harder to prove, then why is the sentence lighter?





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The People
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


If this thread starts going in the direction most do about police officers, I am sure people are going to blame the police, or the executive branch, for the penalities authored by legislators.







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CountryVolFan
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


In Tennessee we have Auto Theft and Joyriding.

Auto Theft requires proof of an intent to permanently deprive the owner of possession, Joyriding does not.

I'm sure LA has something similar






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The People
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FYI-

If you, the victim, get a subpoena to appear in court as prosecution witness for this case it is your responsibility to appear to ensure a conviction.

75% of these cases usually never result in a conviction. This is normally because once the victim's vehicle is returned to them undamaged they choose not to follow through with the ajudication. Therefore, the arrestee is granted credit for time served and usually plead guilty to a lesser charge.



This post was edited on 1/16 at 6:38 pm


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cenla tigah
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re: grand theft auto vs. unauthorized use


I think I get let out of the 75% stat because there was damage. The vehicle was involved in a hit and run. No collision repair specialist, but I would estimate at least two, maybe three thousand worth of damage. If called, I'll appear.

Curious, is the insurance company likely to go after these guys?






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