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re: Why is Muhammad Ali so revered when he is a racist POS?

Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112359 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:08 pm to
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You are an IDIOT if ALI would have let Stevenson do ANYTHING to him!!!!

I have no idea what that sentence means. Can you come again when you're sober?
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:08 pm to
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and being a american hating


I don't know he hated America.

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draft dodging


I would have dodged that bullshite war too. Plenty of people did, including plenty of white folk and plenty of people of privilege were fortunate enough not to be called on.

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racist, loudmouth, unappreciative of his freedom


Yeah, there is a whole lot of freedom when people who are terrorized from voting by a terrorist group and that group faces no repercussions.

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chance he got at stardom all b/c of the country he lived in, peice of shite doesn't compare.


Yeah, blacks were really living the dream back then, let me tell you

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it's not smart to bite the hand that feeds you.
we should have sent his black arse back to africa to rot and die in the serengeti


Damn
This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:10 pm to
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it's not smart to bite the hand that feeds you.
we should have sent his black arse back to africa to rot and die in the serengeti


another fine example of a Louisiana education.



This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 5:11 pm
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:12 pm to
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some of you are racist towards the man I understand that,


so even though i am a huge Frazier fan, it makes me racist if i don't like ALi? i get it......when you have no real argument you just yell "racist" b/c it's easier?

is it possible to not like Ali, and not be racist? Or is that simply an impossible task?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:12 pm to
LSUHornets=

Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10170 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:13 pm to
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Then what is?

WEll, if you don't force it, nothing will really change for minority coaches. College football has a history of not hiring non-white people. Obviously, if it needs to be forced, then there is a problem.

I am not saying there is no racism in the NCAA. It is everywhere. To try and resolve this in the area of hiring coaches, I would start with a pool of applicants. Coaches looking for advancement or change would submit their resumes to the pool, managed by a staff that is not affiliated with the NCAA. Require those Universities that are looking to hire to select applicants by their assigned number, based on how their resume matches the hiring entity's needs. Then they must interview those candidates, not knowing race, gender, creed, or any of the areas listed under Title VII. Many employment agencies function this way and it works to the point of fairness in getting the interview. There are ways other than , "You must interview this minority coach, and that one." Where would you draw the line to be fair to ALL minorities?
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Most people who are miseducated only know MLK by his "I Have A Dream" speech and only know the parts where he talks about judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

For starters, here is just another part of the rest of that speech

Thanks for that info.
You're right, I don't know enough about MLK to take any stand on the subject.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:22 pm to
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when you have no real argument you just yell "racist" b/c it's easier?
when I have no real argument I just yell racist I'm still tryin to get over that one. damn, and forget everything else I mentioned, right.


oh, and I wouldn't yell "racist" if you didn't come on here callin the man a piece of shite and agreeing with the original poster of the thread.
This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 5:26 pm to
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would start with a pool of applicants. Coaches looking for advancement or change would submit their resumes to the pool, managed by a staff that is not affiliated with the NCAA. Require those Universities that are looking to hire to select applicants by their assigned number, based on how their resume matches the hiring entity's needs. Then they must interview those candidates, not knowing race, gender, creed, or any of the areas listed under Title VII


I don't even think you need that. All you gotta do is search programs, mainly candidates in the coordinator positions and bring 'em on in for an interview. It's not that hard.

I don't think black coaches aren't getting interviews because they've failed to submit resumes to athletic departments or because nobody knew they coach football.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80107 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 6:16 pm to
aint no viet cong ever called him a ni**er
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 6:44 pm to
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oh, and I wouldn't yell "racist" if you didn't come on here callin the man a piece of shite and agreeing with the original poster of the thread.


go back and read every single one of my posts in this thread and attempt to explain how i am racist. This should be entertaining.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76418 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 7:48 pm to
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I don't see the NOI as a group that terrorizes folk.
Black Muslims are just as hateful as any Klansman.

They are not the terror force because they are such a minority atm. Were they to gain wider support and acceptance here in the US (which we seem to be moving towards), you would see alot of violent acts from the inherently violent Black Muslims.

Just like with the KKK, all it takes is one automaton who is willing to bring the rhetoric to fruition. Remove accountability and insert excuses to such a situation, and you have a murderous terrorist.

I think the rhetoric that Farrakhan vomits daily is far more extreme than the words of Osama Bin Laden.
Posted by LSUHornets
Member since Oct 2008
979 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:03 am to
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draft dodging




I would have dodged that bullshite war too. Plenty of people did, including plenty of white folk and plenty of people of privilege were fortunate enough not to be called on.


your a peice of shite too then.
when your country asks for your help, you give it.
i hate people that enjoy the freedoms of america and are so quick to make sure they let people know they have those freedoms by demonstrations and other stupid shite like that, but aren't man enough to fight for those freedoms.


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Yeah, there is a whole lot of freedom when people who are terrorized from voting by a terrorist group and that group faces no repercussions.


yep, i guess every black person in the country was terrorized.

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Yeah, blacks were really living the dream back then, let me tell you


i don't know who's talking about blacks, i'm talking about ALI.

i just really hate him, he could have been white and i'd hate him just as much.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:33 am to
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draft dodging


I would have dodged that bullshite war too. Plenty of people did, including plenty of white folk


Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29852 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:35 am to
Have to admit, I think much less of him now after watching that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420796 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:35 am to
to be fair, let's also post the sons of people of influence who essentially dodged the draft by getting cushy positions

our current president and al gore are 2 very notable examples
Posted by 225Tiger
Member since May 2008
463 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:39 am to
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he could have been white and i'd hate him just as much
For the sake of stirring the pot some more...


If he would have been born white or any other color, he still might have become a boxer, but his life and possibly the way he carried himself in and out the ring might have been different.

If you take Ali and color him white right now...then yea he's still the same person.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:40 am to
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to be fair, let's also post the sons of people of influence who essentially dodged the draft by getting cushy positions

our current president and al gore are 2 very notable examples


At least they were IN the military. I am no Gore fan, but he did go to Vietnam (albeit in a non-combat role).

You can't compare them to a POS like Clinton who said he "loathes America" and demonstrated against his country on foreign soil.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13134 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:42 am to
LSU=Hornets needs to live the life of a black man for a year in 1960's Louisiana and check bath with us.

Would his opinion of Ali change?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420796 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:43 am to
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At least they were IN the military

if their parents couldn't have gotten them those protected positions, they wouldn't have been

they'd have done something similar to what slick willy did, and you know it
Posted by The Darrow Kid
Darrow
Member since Jan 2006
5108 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:01 am to
My grandfather was a professional boxer who use to spar with Joe Lewis. His career was cut short due to being wounded in WWII. He couldn't stand the fact that Ali was praised for not fighting for his country.
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