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Defense....The Scheme is Bad, the Fundamentals are Worse

Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6798 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:20 pm
I think 99% of our fans would agree the defensive scheme sucks and has to be changed. That said, even with the shitty scheme, I think it would be less of an issue if we would just execute on the plays where our guys actually were in the right place.

Our tackling wouldn't be acceptable in a pee wee league game. Half the time, the guys wait on the contact to come to them and the other half, they put their heads down or turn away from the runner and just slide off to the side. Why isn't that being addressed?

Then other times, we seem to be in the right place, but don't make the play. The long run by the Arky RB in the first qtr...there were about 5 guys surrounding him, yet somehow he manages to scoot though all of them for a huge gain. This sort of stuff happens all the time. I don't know if we're taking bad angles or what's going on, but why isn't that being addressed as well?
Posted by yungtigr
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2005
3820 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:23 pm to
the only thing that pisses me off more than the tackling by our secondary is the absolute clusterfrick that happens before every play.

our guys never look set and confident in what they're going to do when the offense snaps the ball.
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2785 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:23 pm to
The poor tackling is a disgrace, especially in the 12th game of the season.

Wide open passing plays, and so many of them, is a lack of brain power on the field, on the sideline, and in the pressbox.

To think that the overall history of LSU was built on defense. Looks like the nineties all over again.

But Miles will say, except for three or four plays, the defense looked great.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32839 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:26 pm to
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Defense....The Scheme is Bad, the Fundamentals are Worse
I think 99% of our fans would agree the defensive scheme sucks and has to be changed. That said, even with the shitty scheme, I think it would be less of an issue if we would just execute on the plays where our guys actually were in the right place.


I've seen several comments that Pelini had the same scheme but would have been in many player's faces re: their lack of effort, etc. I know its the same scheme and all, but the D under Pelini had much more oomph. Goes back to the coaches running the scheme...they currently suck.
This post was edited on 11/28/08 at 11:29 pm
Posted by sawfiddle
New Hope, Alabama
Member since Aug 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:29 pm to
I think it's a great idea to leave a 10-15 yd cushion between defender and receiver, seems to be working so far.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6798 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:35 pm to
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our guys never look set and confident in what they're going to do when the offense snaps the ball.


Drives me nuts. Guys are literally looking the other way when the ball is snapped. I've never like all the mass subsitutions, even though I know the majority of teams do it. Throw in a couple of extra DBs in obvious passing situations, but otherwise, throw your best 11 guys out there and go with it.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37241 posts
Posted on 11/28/08 at 11:36 pm to
Not to mention the lack of discipline which has been a problem on both sides of the ball since day one of Les ball.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51345 posts
Posted on 11/29/08 at 8:52 am to
seems like our guys are getting dragged by the ball-carrier AFTER they make the hit.
Posted by TXARTiger
East Texas
Member since Sep 2007
1010 posts
Posted on 11/29/08 at 8:55 am to
From where I sat in War Memorial yesterday, this loss was on the coaches--PERIOD!
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10049 posts
Posted on 11/29/08 at 9:04 am to
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Miles will say, except for 3 or 4 plays our defense looks great.

That's exactly what worries me.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29148 posts
Posted on 11/29/08 at 9:06 am to
Half the time it appeared our guys were looking to the sideline as the ball was being snapped trying to figure out what to do. Saw several times where players just shrugged and looked at each other, like
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