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re: What to use to kill briars (blackberries) that won't kill clover foodplot?

Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:44 pm to
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I'm a licensed government pesticide applicator, the label is the law for me. I just don't want to see the man kill his clover patch

Yeah I was going to say I don't want to argue against a label Can't argue with that.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:48 pm to
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I still don't understand why the desire to kill blackberries. They are super easy to mow with a tractor.
I don't know much about deer. Only hunt them very little. Did not know they liked black berries, that was interesting and makes sense.
Posted by TigerTerd
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:50 pm to
Only option is wickbar with probably triclopyr or spot spraying.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:52 pm to
Man, everything loves blackberries. I used to love picking them off the tractor while I was simultaneously bushhoging the hell out of them

ETA: the deer like the briars more than the berries. Deer love green briars.

I'd think that you could just cut the edge of the plot to keep it open, and maybe nuke the food plot with something like gromoxine to kill everything on it (but not prohibit new growth) and plant it after. OP will be upset to see deer standing in his knee high clover eating the sticks and briars and shite growing on the side though
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:56 pm to
1/4 Oz of Metso will smoke young blackberries. Big, full crown blackberries need a full one Oz. But little runners like that will go down hard to a 1/4 Oz. And clover is one month from going dormant anyhow. Wait until a dry spell and hammer the blackberries without doing anything to your clover when it breaks dormancy in Oct.

I actually owned a Metsulfuron Methyl label at one time. I'm pretty familiar with the chemistry.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:57 pm to
True.


Reminded me of a time in high school, working for a farmer. Another kid and I were cleaning a ditch with a backhoe. Owner told us to NOT go pick pears in that tree in the pasture cause they were for his dad. It was an old home site. When we got close we figured what the hell, he won't miss a few so I picked up the backhoe and buddy drove to the tree.

I got on hood of tractor and he drove under it. Don't you think the dam tire rod comes off!! Holy shite. We had to go tell the farmer/owner and Inshit you not, the tractor was UNDER the tree.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:04 pm to
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I actually owned a Metsulfuron Methyl label at one time. 



Soooo can you still hook me up with some cheap??
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:49 pm to
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Soooo can you still hook me up with some cheap??

I bought a shipping container of 22 metric tonnes when it was selling for $17.95 per ounce. It was a good year.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:36 am to
Build yourself an ATV or tractor wick bar, set it up 6 inches above ground and fill with roundup, problem 100% solved although the briers would not bother me one bit.

FYI they likely will disappear after the ground is turned a few more times.
Posted by RickyDonSkaggs
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:46 am to
Gromoxone at about 80 oz and a match.
Posted by TigerTerd
Member since Sep 2010
2659 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:28 am to
Bootleg, what do you normally recommend for goosegrass in St. Aug?
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:57 am to
Clover and/or blackberries aren't going to carry a fire
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:00 am to
A pre-emergent

It's an annual (like crabgrass) so Barricade or something like that in early spring is the best option. Right now, very carefully spot treat (wipe) with Roundup. I've heard a chemical called asulam gives good results, but if I remember correctly it's not labeled for residential use.
Posted by TigerTerd
Member since Sep 2010
2659 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:28 am to
Well I have my PPA card, but I was hoping Image 70DG or MSM Turf had some activity.
Still nothing out there for dallisgrass?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 8:31 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:37 am to
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Bruh, blackberries are excellent deer forage


Correct. It's actually the new fresh leaves and shoots they like.

My final answer is just to go bush hog it soon and one more time about 2 weeks before bow season opens. Don't worry about chemicals or any straggler black berry vines left on the edges. Who wants one type of food when they can have a combo platter?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:40 am to
Personally I would fertilize the blackberries and greenbrier

I would bet that everything in that plot called "trash" is actually good deer forage.

Looks like the deer have. Toward the "trash" down if you look at the pic
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:54 am to
In St Aug, not that I know of. Nothing labeled for it anyways...maybe someone else here has experience with something they've tried.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20389 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:07 am to
Yeah I would agree not to worry about the blackberries for the deer. They are natural foragers, and prefer multiple sources of food. Deer around a corn feeder for example will eat some corn and then go eat some grass or something around it, then return for corn and repeat. I realize they are a pain to walk and drive a 4 wheeler through so that's the only reason I'd consider knocking them down. A good plot doesn't need to look like a front yard of a house landscaped to perfection.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:26 am to
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What to use to kill briars (blackberries) that won't kill clover foodplot?


Some folks call it a sling blade. I call it a kaiser blade.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:59 am to
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the deer like the briars more than the berries. Deer love green briars


One of the best plots I ever hunted was a 15 acre CRP field with a bunch or Cherokee briars in it. Those deer would graze those across that field all winter long and with the tall grass around them they didn't have a care in the world
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