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**UPDATE** 2013 150 Pro XS issues today- How bad is it?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:33 pm
Sorry in advance for the tl;dr
My rig- 2013 Z-7 DC, 2013 Pro XS 150
On Toledo Bend this morning and boat fires up just fine like it does at least every other week. Idle a couple hundred yards out of the cove and make a 5 minute run to first fishing spot of the day with no issues. Fish for about an hour and decide to head across to the Texas side of the lake to a spot about 15 minutes away. Boat ran excellent until about 12 minutes into that trip when it sputtered for a second like it would of had trash in the fuel but quickly recovered. That is until I made it about 100 more yards and the engine starts making a horrific clattering/knocking sound paired with a very generous about of vibration to go with it. So I immediately shut it down. It was very rough idling for a little bit when I decided to try to limp to a nearby marina but it died the second I put it in gear. It would still crank after that but die again when forward or reverse were engaged. After trying that once each, I cranked once more to hear it idle but it died on its own about 5 seconds after crank. Just a note- Oil levels in both tanks good, non ethanol gas with additives, and when it initially sputtered for a quick second, on instinct, I looked down at my water pressure and it was still good @12-13 psi so I'm pretty certain nothing was caused from overheating. Also I never got any kind of alarm from the motor.
Just got it back to town and dropped it off at the dealer but probably won't hear anything for 2 weeks. I do still have the Platinum warranty good until next March (thank God) but I'm just curious of what yall think might have happened and how bad it actually is. Thanks for any input yall have and let me know if I've left out any crucial info.
**UPDATE FOR THOSE INTERESTED**
Just got back from the shop and took a look for myself where there is a quarter sized hole in the #3 cylinder. Wont be certain of what actually caused the damage until they open it up. Now just to wait to hear from Mercury to see how they want to handle it. Hopefully they don't give me any kind of run around which I believe they won't. I'll just have to accept the fact that my fishing season is probably done for the season unless winter decides to be non existent again this year here in SWLA. I'll be sure to update again after we hear from Mercury just in case anybody is curious.
My rig- 2013 Z-7 DC, 2013 Pro XS 150
On Toledo Bend this morning and boat fires up just fine like it does at least every other week. Idle a couple hundred yards out of the cove and make a 5 minute run to first fishing spot of the day with no issues. Fish for about an hour and decide to head across to the Texas side of the lake to a spot about 15 minutes away. Boat ran excellent until about 12 minutes into that trip when it sputtered for a second like it would of had trash in the fuel but quickly recovered. That is until I made it about 100 more yards and the engine starts making a horrific clattering/knocking sound paired with a very generous about of vibration to go with it. So I immediately shut it down. It was very rough idling for a little bit when I decided to try to limp to a nearby marina but it died the second I put it in gear. It would still crank after that but die again when forward or reverse were engaged. After trying that once each, I cranked once more to hear it idle but it died on its own about 5 seconds after crank. Just a note- Oil levels in both tanks good, non ethanol gas with additives, and when it initially sputtered for a quick second, on instinct, I looked down at my water pressure and it was still good @12-13 psi so I'm pretty certain nothing was caused from overheating. Also I never got any kind of alarm from the motor.
Just got it back to town and dropped it off at the dealer but probably won't hear anything for 2 weeks. I do still have the Platinum warranty good until next March (thank God) but I'm just curious of what yall think might have happened and how bad it actually is. Thanks for any input yall have and let me know if I've left out any crucial info.
**UPDATE FOR THOSE INTERESTED**
Just got back from the shop and took a look for myself where there is a quarter sized hole in the #3 cylinder. Wont be certain of what actually caused the damage until they open it up. Now just to wait to hear from Mercury to see how they want to handle it. Hopefully they don't give me any kind of run around which I believe they won't. I'll just have to accept the fact that my fishing season is probably done for the season unless winter decides to be non existent again this year here in SWLA. I'll be sure to update again after we hear from Mercury just in case anybody is curious.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:53 pm to ItsGeauxTime
You need a new compressor.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:25 pm to ItsGeauxTime
Compressors on the Pro XS are junk. Hate it for ya.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:42 am to Manchac Man
Yep, mot likely the compressor going bad.If so insist they clean the fuel system and injectors too before you get the engine back.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:18 am to iron banks
Thanks for the input guys. I had never actually heard what a bad compressor sounded like but a quick google search helped me out. Not saying that's not it because I'm certainly no mechanic and this is the first time I've ever had an issues of this nature, but all the videos I saw didn't seem like there was any excessive amount of vibration from the motor (mine was shaking the entire boat a good bit.) And also mine seemed to have what I would best describe as a metal on metal significant knock that didn't have a definitive rhythm to it like on the videos with bad compressors. This initially led me to believe I might have broken a piston rod but again this was just a wild guess. Again, thanks for the input and I'll be nervously waiting to hear from the shop.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:30 pm to ItsGeauxTime
Broken Crank, rod, or a wrist pin.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:35 pm to ItsGeauxTime
quote:
This initially led me to believe I might have broken a piston rod
Current warranties are a beautiful thing
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:20 pm to Wtodd
THey certainly are. Although I will not be fully at ease until I get the call from them and they confirm that whatever the issue is in fact covered by the warranty (I've heard stories of how motor and/or boat manufacturers, not Mercury necessarily, have tried to weasel out of certain warranty work situations before. The service guy at the dealership did say that the platinum warranty basically covers anything you could imagine besides something they could prove without a doubt to stem from owner neglect or improper treatment which is definitely not the case so I suppose that has given me a little relief in the mean time. This is gonna be a long 2 weeks waiting on a call
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:07 pm to ItsGeauxTime
Why is it going to take 2 weeks to diagnose a compressor? Diagnostics, replacement and testing should be a 2-3 hour job, at most.
Just another little FYI, fuel system cleaning is only required after an extremely catastrophic compressor failure which usually coincides with a powerhead failure. If your compressor just lost compression for various minor reasons, like a snapped wrist pin, there should be no need to go through with a proper and costly fuel system cleaning. Very few dealers are even set up to clean the entire Optimax fuel system, direct injectors included.
Just another little FYI, fuel system cleaning is only required after an extremely catastrophic compressor failure which usually coincides with a powerhead failure. If your compressor just lost compression for various minor reasons, like a snapped wrist pin, there should be no need to go through with a proper and costly fuel system cleaning. Very few dealers are even set up to clean the entire Optimax fuel system, direct injectors included.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:21 pm to davidwademarine
Well they told me they were extremely swamped on boats needing to be serviced (their back parking lot certainly led me to believe this was true) and that best case scenario I would hear something in about a week but to realistically expect to hear something closer to 2. Good to know that only a catastrophic failure would cause the whole system to need to be cleaned.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 3:28 pm to ItsGeauxTime
Did the mechanics have a guess to what they think caused the damage?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 3:57 pm to civiltiger07
We are both assuming a broken piston rod but he didn't want to assume too much before he tore it apart. As for what could have actually caused that issue to happen (because i was worried there was a possible warning sign that i could have overlooked leading up to it), he just said "sometimes sh*t just happens".
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:00 pm to civiltiger07
My guess is a clogged injector.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:00 pm to ItsGeauxTime
I'll stick with my Kayak. Lol
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