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Truck A/C blowing hot at idle (Updated on pg 2)

Posted on 6/8/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 4:55 pm
Well, I haven't really paid that much attention to my A/C until today because it really hasn't been that hot, but it definitely is only blowing vent air when it is idling. Once I am underway, it starts cooling off, but not as much as I'd like. I just drove for 30 minutes with it on full blast, and never came close to turning it down.

Hopefully yall can help me figure this out. It is an 04 2500HD 6.0

Fan clutch is good
Engine Temps fine
Compressor kicks on and off
R134 levels good

Any ideas?
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 7:30 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 4:56 pm to
Same here

Not exactly "hot" but it ain't cold
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:04 pm to
Dirty condenser, evaporator, or radiator or radiator fan not blowing enough. At idle, there's no air flowing across the condensor to cool it. Possibly a bad fan clutch.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:18 pm to
It's not overheating at all. No mud up front
Posted by Bull11
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:30 pm to
I had a 2001 Silverado and had the same problems. Started a couple years after I bought it. Dealership claimed on multiple trips that there was nothing wrong and did not hear of anyone else having problems. Just sold it last year. Couldn't go through another summer without a cold a/c.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:32 pm to
When you say R134 level is good, what did you use to measure it (also what were the low-side pressures)? Also, just because the compressor cycles while you are looking at it under hood doesn't mean it's doing so properly while driving. You can have "good" R134a levels according to most DIY gauges and have marginal to shite performance from your A/C.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:33 pm to
All they'd have to do is stick a thermometer on it. I try and stay away from places that charge me $100/hr
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:45 pm to
My old truck was doing same thing. It was the condensor fan was bad. Blew cold while going then hot while sitting at a red light.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:50 pm to
Sounds like it needs freon to me. Might want to re-check that.

Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:57 pm to
I've seen Dodges do that and it was related to vacuum. The engine needed to be revved up to create enough vacuum to have the AC going thru the right ducts.
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:01 pm to
Try replacing the a/c pressure switch.

It a switch on the dryer bottle, that take 5 min to change out for about 25 dollars
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:03 pm to
I just have a shite set of dual gauges, so I guess I can try and find someone with a real set. Either way, I think it was like 33/150
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:14 pm to
Look it up to be sure but I think the suction pressure should run close to 50 pounds with it being as hot as it is right now.

ETA: I think 33 is definitely low. What happens is the compressor kicks off on low suction pressure. Eventually it climbs enough to kick on for a second, but it won't run much at idle without plenty of airflow over the condenser without enough pressure in the system. You can't condense hot vapor when the system pressure is too low.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55976 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:17 pm to
if it is truly ok on refrigerant, then maybe your compressor is getting a bit weak...

however, I can't say I have ever had a truck with an AC that would just freeze me out at a flat idle...they are designed to run optimally at a little higher rpm...
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Sounds like it needs freon to me. Might want to re-check that.


agreed....
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16538 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:26 pm to
Did you rev the engine a little while observing the pressure? My Ranger's AC worked fine when I checked it a month or two ago (cooler weather too which is important), about 40 - 45psi low side. Got into warmer weather and I'd notice my AC would cycle during acceleration and blow warmer for a few minutes until I was under steady cruise. Checked my low-side pressure again and it was closer to 50 psi which was still "good" according to the gauge for the ambient temperature. When I revved the engine while watching the gauge it would spike a little and trip the pressure limit switch. Little too much R134a. Bled it down to 40 psi and it's been fine and ice cold ever since.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8585 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:31 pm to
Wonder if Chicken would allow us to start a pool for threads like this. Everybody who wants to suggest a fix puts up $5. First correct response gets the pot
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 7:23 pm to
Nah, didn't rev it up. Just connected the gauges and watched it cycle on and off. I guess I am going to try and find someone with a good set of gauges this week to check it.

If it was low, wouldn't the compressor not cycle?
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

jorconalx

Ah, no.
Posted by 300HOGSLAYER
south of I10
Member since Nov 2014
312 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 7:43 pm to
Hammer 9 out of 10 times it's the fan clutch on those 6.0 gas guzzling bastards
I have changed a truck load of them over the years, see if you can grab it and stop it while it's running if you can it's history or put your mega shop fan in front if the condenser and see if it starts cooling or you could spray the condenser with water and check it like that also.
Good luck
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