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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here

Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:42 am to
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:42 am to
Nice from what I just read in a couple of articles it looks like the flood tide fishing ends in November when the fiddler crabs go in
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:51 am to
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I think it's primarily a summer/late summer thing. I'm gonna try to go around this time next year.


Are you trying to do the flood tide thing? If you time it right you can stake out your skiff and stalk redfish on foot in the spartina grass and then catch cobia just a few hundred yards off the flats. For Cobia we usually go April/May-ish If you wait and go a little later you can still fish the floods and have the opportunity for tarpon. The flood tides will run all the way into the fall.

Checkout a tide chart and look for tides in the 5.5 to 6.x range for the harbor in Charleston. I can't remember the name of the river in beaufort but that tidal range was in the 6+ ish range.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1308 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:25 am to
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My question is, does the image show the proper setup and if so, what size tippet do I need? When I google tippets, I see people carry them on their vests and what not so I guess one could change them frequently??

If it helps, I have a 8'-6", 5 wt and will be fishing in Colorado. My reel came with backing, fly line, and a leader, if referencing the diagram.


That picture is OK, but not absolute. Most people these days will use a loop to loop connection for the leader to the fly line and I use a nail knot for fly line to backing connections. Onto leaders/tippet...

The basic construction of a tapered leader is that it tapers from the fat end to the level tippet section that is usually 18"-24" of the same diameter material. This final diameter is designated with the 5x, 6x, etc. markings. You don't need to add tippet to a brand new leader but some people do. A spool of tippet material will mainly be for:

- replacing the level tippet section of the leader once you have burned through it (most common)
- extending the level tippet section (can give a softer presentation of the fly but can also prevent turn over if you use too much)
- changing the final diameter of the leader

tippet material is cheap compared to a tapered leader. I'll typically start with a new leader and burn through a half dozen or so flys before adding a couple feet of tippet.

here is a great podcast on leaders and tippet

I'm not sure what leader your combo came with but a good all-around leader to start with where you are would be a 9' 5x mono tapered leader. Grab a few spools of tippet say 4x-6x and you can make that leader work all season.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:38 am to
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Are you trying to do the flood tide thing? If you time it right you can stake out your skiff and stalk redfish on foot in the spartina grass and then catch cobia just a few hundred yards off the flats. For Cobia we usually go April/May-ish If you wait and go a little later you can still fish the floods and have the opportunity for tarpon. The flood tides will run all the way into the fall.

Checkout a tide chart and look for tides in the 5.5 to 6.x range.


Yes. How many times have you been? Also, Charleston? HHI? I was going to just go to Charleston because of other stuff to do for my girlfriend.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 10:39 am
Posted by MichaelScott
Scranton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:40 am to
Awesome. Thank you so much. Going to check out the podcast here in a sec.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:08 am to
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How many times have you been?


Lots. I put the low country up there with some of my favorite places to fish anywhere in the US.

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Charleston? HHI? I was going to just go to Charleston because of other stuff to do for my girlfriend.


So I usually find a cool spot to stay and just drive to the boat ramp. I'm use to driving two and half hours to the ramp anyway so if I have to drive an hour I don't mind. Hilton Head has a bunch of shite to do, so does Bluffton and Brighten beach. I have even stayed in Savannah. I like Savannah. I really like Beaufort too, it's a cool town.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:11 am to
Sent you an email.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 7:52 pm to
Has anyone tried the Simms wading sandals? I'm looking at them or either the Keen Newports for wet wading
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:30 pm to
If you're getting that type of sandal get the Keens. What type of water to wet wade??? I just put neoprene wading socks on and wear my wading boots when wet wading.

EDIT: my "wading socks" are actually Bodyglove neoprene wetsuit slippers typically used in scuba diving
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24939 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:37 pm to
I do what Aubie say as well.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:47 pm to
Mainly small mountain rivers and streams in Tennessee. Nothing that cold.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:30 am to
Get the neoprene socks and use your wading boots. You'll have loads of little pebbles and sharp rocks getting through the holes in the sandals - not fun
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22889 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:44 pm to
Can anyone give recommendations for good camp sites near the decent access points on the Little Red River in Arkansas? My brother and I are planning to go there next weekend. Want to do some hiking and fly fishing. Thanks
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24939 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:49 pm to
They're a campground just below the dam. I can't remember the name off the top of my head though. Think it may be a state park though.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:06 pm to
Pretty pumped about headed back to Gatlinburg this weekend, for 3 days of nothing but fishing. I also signed up for a free lesson at one of the fly shops near the campground. So, hoping to pick up some tips and pointers.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15497 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 6:56 am to
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Pretty pumped about headed back to Gatlinburg this weekend, for 3 days of nothing but fishing. I also signed up for a free lesson at one of the fly shops near the campground. So, hoping to pick up some tips and pointers.


Become a ninja, seriously, those little mountain fish are easily spooked. Take a trip over to Townsend and visit Little River Outfitters, best fly shop in the area. In this heat, I have had a lot of luck in the past with tellico nymphs.

One of my favorite spots to fish that I don't mind sharing is right next to the Chimney Tops trailhead. Park your car at the trailhead, walk through the tunnel back toward Gatlinburg, and then climb down the side of the mountain right after the tunnel to the river. Be careful on the climb, it's pretty steep here. You can fish bows all the way back to the trailhead. I will usually get out of the river at the trailhead (but you don't have to) and walk up the trail to the 3rd trail bridge and fish for the native brook trout to bridge 5. You can fish for hours doing this, it takes a lot longer than expected to go from the climb down to the trailhead again. The river bends around a lot.

If you want to go for the smokies grand slam, brookie/bow/brown in the same day, you can usually find browns by elkmont.

You can always go to Cherokee and pay to fish the trophy section if you want big fish. National park fish are tiny for the most part, but the small native brook trout are delicious at a campfire.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:04 am
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:20 am to
The free lesson is actually at Little River Outfitters, so glad to hear it's a good shop.

I'll have to try chimney tops thanks. I'm right there, staying in elkmont park. Probably just roll out of the tent every morning and hit the river. Don't know how good it'll be this weekend, we haven't had much rain and it's been warm, but it has started to cool off a good bit at night so I'm hopeful that it'll be nice a cool in the mountains
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15497 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:31 am to
Cool, they usually have really good guides and classes there. They bring in some great fly tiers all the time for free demos too. They should treat you right, if they don't, talk to management and they will make it up to you if they know they did something wrong.

I wouldn't worry about rain too much. Low water up there makes things easier with small pools. Never count out a tiny puddle, amazing how trout live in those up there lol. Also makes it easier to wade in some of the fast moving sections too.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22889 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:18 am to
Do you know if it gets pretty crowded?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24939 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:04 pm to
There are always people there but I wouldn't say that it's crowded.

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