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re: Spring Longhorn Calves

Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2015
2408 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:03 pm to
How many would u put on 20 acers of pasture and do u plant ryegrass during the winter or just hay?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30348 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:30 pm to
Great looking animals. Proud dads, mom and rancher are to be commended.
Posted by tigernation81
Lake Charles La
Member since May 2012
245 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:30 pm to
I think "candy" is dropping very good color in most of his calfs. I'm interested to see the result in the horn growth. Do you plan on cutting the bulls? I know the bull has very good papers and you kept an eye on for a long time.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:57 pm to
Thanks man, if you're still around here in a few years we may have to talk more in depth. Just trying to get my business off the ground right now and then I can focus on hobbies.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7904 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:08 pm to
Those are some dandies.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:14 pm to
So who else here reads this thread and decides it's time to get into this for a hobby? Looks awesome
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38724 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:09 am to
quote:

How many would u put on 20 acers of pasture and do u plant ryegrass during the winter or just hay?



20 acres in LA? I'd maybe run 10 cows and a bull on it. Have calves, but never let your total number get above 15 and never let your total number of mature animals get above 11ish. I like 2 ac./cow as a general rule of thumb. The biggest thing is watch your grass and poo poo. You don't want your pasture to look like a putting green. That's too many cows. Also, poo poo density across the pasture is a good indicator. Yeah, it'll pile up around the hay where they stand all the time, but you don't want it every where you step in the pasture. Plus they can get sick from it. Too many cows means they'll eat grass really close to another cow's shite pile. All it takes is eating a little poo and they can get very sick, very fast and can die from it.

quote:

do u plant ryegrass during the winter or just hay?


We have done rye, but not in many years. We do hay and range cubes through the winter. With our herd we put out 4 round bales a week and feed 100 lbs. of range cubes at least twice a week. I try to do 3 times. If I'm feeling frisky I'll put out a protein tub a couple times a year.





Mineral blocks are important too. That's what makes their horns grow good supposedly.

This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:52 am to
Headed home now. One of our heifers is calving. She is a long horn / angus cross that's bred to a brangus bull. She is small framed so I'm gonna go take my lunch break at home and monitor things.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38724 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:30 pm to
I've seen a lot of operations that run angus bulls on longhorn cows. You'd think the smaller cow would have trouble, but their birthing ability is superior to that of the English breeds. Hopefully she squirts that calf right out for.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:56 pm to
I don't have any use for a longhorn or longhorn X other than as a pasture ornament. Im in the market for about 10 3-4 yr old bred cows right now( angus, angus X, or herford) but not finding anything nearby for the right price
Posted by Foo
Over the Rainbow
Member since Feb 2013
354 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:08 pm to
Get em while they're cheap
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
Had to go back to work but when I left there was one big foot sticking out. Made the call that calf was too big and needed to be pulled but I got over ruled.

Headed back out there to meet the vet. One day someone will listen to me
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38724 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

one big foot sticking out.


I like to see 2 front feet. They should appear to "dive" out.

That said, you'll probably go back and she'll have it up and nursing.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:38 pm to
Awesome, the wife and I would love to have cows but unfortunately need to get us some more property first.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:39 pm to
This calf is too big. A nose is out but calf is likely dead. I wanna pull it but was told to wait on a vet
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34515 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:51 pm to
Aw. I hope not. If it does die during the birth process, is it able to be eaten so it doesn't go to waste? (Sorry, I know nothing about cattle).
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:24 pm to
Who is making that call?

Who owns the heifer?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:09 pm to
It belongs to my step dad.

So, got home and calf had a nose and front hoof out. Obvious calf was already dead as I suspected. We tried pulling but calf had already swelled a good bit. LSU vet school crew showed up. Had to pump about 5 gal of lube in her and pull like hell. Bull calf just had too much hip for her. Finally got him out but she isn't in the greatest shape. Knuckling real bad on her right rear with some paralysis and can't get up. Got her shot up with banamine and some steroids and hay and water. Will try and get her up with the front end loader tomorrow and see where we are at.

This is why I don't mess with small frame heifers
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Mineral blocks are important too. That's what makes their horns grow good supposedly.
Helps keep them from retaining placenta, too.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:20 pm to
Yup, as soon as yall saw only one foot yall should have gotten to work.

Going to be running a LBW hereford over 1st and 2nd yr brahman heifers to hopefully avoid calfing issues.
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