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Someone tell me all you know about no-till in food plots
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:30 am
Got this email today from Whitetail Institute and it got me thinking. There are some tight spots I would love to try this
So.... what works best for ya? I hunt Copiah Co. MS (red sandy soil)
So.... what works best for ya? I hunt Copiah Co. MS (red sandy soil)
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:16 pm to mylsuhat
I'm interested in replies as well. I've never had real good luck with the "no till" mixes.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:45 pm to mylsuhat
From my research, you still need seed to soil contact in most cases and will still need a bit of prep before you throw your seed out. The only real step it saves you is tilling the ground before planting.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:45 pm to mylsuhat
Did some research on them. Seems most people have better luck if they rake leaves and debris, scuff up the ground and then use some form of fertilizer.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:06 pm to mylsuhat
Copiah county sandy loam soil type probably needs a 100:1 ratio of lime. If you do a soil sample you can find out the exact amount per acre. Scratching the ground before broadcasting seed will greatly improve your seed stand.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:13 pm to mylsuhat
Do you have a lot of grass currently in the plot? If so, spread it and then clip the grass a couple times, then throw some fertilizer out. That mulch should give it enough cover to germinate when it rains.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:22 pm to mylsuhat
I used a blower to clear the plot then took a garden rake and loosened up the soil and work some lime into it also. Spread seed lights hit with rake again. Came back and hit with fertilizer. They did okay where they got good light.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:32 pm to Capt ST
Definitely use a rake and/or blower. Soil contact is necessary.
I'm not really a fan of these types of plots because often times the deer browse pressure kills them very quickly. I like at least a 1/4-1/2 acre bow plots, preferably bigger than that, so we can drill the forage seed.
I'm not really a fan of these types of plots because often times the deer browse pressure kills them very quickly. I like at least a 1/4-1/2 acre bow plots, preferably bigger than that, so we can drill the forage seed.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:36 pm to TheBowhunter
If you want a no till blend use PlotSpike. No fillers. No coatings. A 11 lb bag sells for about $15.
Good price available at Tractor Supply.
Imperial does things like coat their seed which is a cheap way of adding weight to the bag instead of seed. I have seen their clover blends with 50% coating material. On a 10 lb bag that is 5 lbs of coating and 5 lbs of seed.
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There no till is not on the website but is in Tractor Supply
Good price available at Tractor Supply.
Imperial does things like coat their seed which is a cheap way of adding weight to the bag instead of seed. I have seen their clover blends with 50% coating material. On a 10 lb bag that is 5 lbs of coating and 5 lbs of seed.
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There no till is not on the website but is in Tractor Supply
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:39 pm to I B Freeman
Thanks guys. I'll probably go cut the standing grass this weekend and try to scrape it to get some soil contact.
That PlotSpike sounds like a great price for trial
That PlotSpike sounds like a great price for trial
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:52 pm to Capt ST
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I used a blower to clear the plot
Your wife?
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:00 pm to mylsuhat
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Copiah Co
O Rly, that's where our property is...
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:11 pm to mylsuhat
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Imperial No Plow seed mix includes; Gulf Annual Ryegrass 24.91%, Dwarf essex Rapeseed 19.85 %, Alex Berseem Clover 10.33%, YucchiArrowleaf Clover 8.42%, Dixie Crimson Clover 7.57%, Sterling Rapeseed 5.91%, Daikon Radish 4.89%, 1.42 Paris White Cos Romaine Lettuce, Other Crop seed .20%, Inert matter 16.40% includes coating material 15.83%, 0.10% weed seed, no noxious weeds. Pre-inoculated and coated with All-Vantage containing RainBond.
25% ryegrass (basically useless), 16.4% inert with 15.83% coating. You're at 40% right there. Check the bottom of the bag for the contents and pick the one with the least amount of ryegrass. I know this has been stated before but ryegrass has damn near zero nutritional value to deer.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:14 pm to CBDTigerFan
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quote: I used a blower to clear the plot
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Your wife?
I don't think you understand how marriage works son.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:17 pm to mylsuhat
Dry planting corn for...oh wait never mind.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:20 pm to 34venture
Posted on 8/8/14 at 5:16 pm to KingRanch
Where abouts KR?
We're WSW of Hazelhurst North of 28
We're WSW of Hazelhurst North of 28
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 6:09 pm to I B Freeman
I am by no means saying that plotspike isn't any good cause I have never tried it but the coating on the other seed brands are an innoculant which promotes growth for a better stand and yield in legumes. Basically it is like a fertilizer attached to the seed you can read about it here.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:26 pm to mylsuhat
There are no deer in Copiah County, Ms. It amazes me how many La tags I see with ATV/SxSs from La in Copiah County. Watch out for Green Jeans he'll steal your SD cards.
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