- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
So where is this "void space" on a deer where people say you can shoot through?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:18 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:18 am
I've heard people talk about a bullet passing through this void where it doesn't kill a deer or cause much damage. I don't see anywhere above the shoulder where you could hit where it wouldn't hit the spine or some part of the vertebrae. And the lungs cover a pretty big area of the chest.
5
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:27 am to bhtigerfan
The short answer is that they're full of shite 9 times out of 10.
Long answer, there are certainly possibilities where a 'void' may be struck, i.e. you're aiming for the heart and you actually hit 6" back, or forward for that matter, but again it all boils down to operator error IMO.
Long answer, there are certainly possibilities where a 'void' may be struck, i.e. you're aiming for the heart and you actually hit 6" back, or forward for that matter, but again it all boils down to operator error IMO.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:27 am to bhtigerfan
Paging dayne o
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:47 am to bhtigerfan
Just what are you calling the shoulder?
Above the shoulder would miss the deer completely. Are you saying where the leg hits the body?
Above the shoulder would miss the deer completely. Are you saying where the leg hits the body?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:48 am to bhtigerfan
99% of the time when people think they hit the "void" they actually hit above the spine.
That picture is a little inaccurate. The spine curves downward near the shoulder and there is plenty of room to go above the spine and still hit the deer.
That picture is a little inaccurate. The spine curves downward near the shoulder and there is plenty of room to go above the spine and still hit the deer.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 1:52 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:59 am to Nodust
quote:The shoulder blade. If you shoot behind the shoulder blade and a little high, you're still hitting lungs.
Just what are you calling the shoulder?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:37 am to bhtigerfan
There is an episode of whitetail properties where the guy hunting shoots a big arse 12 point right behind the shoulder about 3-4 inches from the bottom of his chest. They lose the blood trail and the deer is killed a week later chasing does.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:26 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
So where is this "void space" on a deer where people say you can shoot through?
The head. Miss that walnut sized brain and you are screwed.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:52 am to Geaux8686
There is no void. there are lots of imperfect shots. shot looked good but really just a little bit off. arrows can defect off bones or the deers reacts and moves at the last second. things happen fast at the time of the shot.
Here is a cutoff of a frozen deer. I drew some lines that could be arrows and all non lethal, that would probably look like a good shot in that split second.
Here is a cutoff of a frozen deer. I drew some lines that could be arrows and all non lethal, that would probably look like a good shot in that split second.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:53 am to GROCK
Picture doesn't work
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:01 am to KingRanch
Sorry yall Ill get this picture thing right soon. Don't want my whole photobucket on TD. 
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:19 am to GROCK
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:42 am to GROCK
quote:May be semantics, but there is an area above optimal that will result in lost deer. The void is real. I've found that spot too often in my life.
There is no void
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:48 am to AlxTgr
I've seen a deer shot with a Rage (opened horizontally like they most often do) and it looked like a good shot, just a little high. Supposedly the deer was exhaling and the lungs were contracted, resulting in a clean pass-through and no damage to vitals. He is on camera the next night feeding. I bet I can get the guy to send me the pic
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:13 am to AlxTgr
May be semantics, but there is an area above optimal that will result in lost deer. The void is real. I've found that spot too often in my life.
This is correct.
I made what what I thought was a perfect top of the heart bow shot on a buck about 6 yrs ago.
24 yds on a ridge that put him almost even with me, so no downward angle. Arrow shish-k-bobed him, maybe 2 inches above heart, where it should have caught the front of lungs. Buck stopped after bolting 15 yds and walked away with 4" of arrow sticking out of each side.
Not one drop of blood found, watched him through binoculars for maybe another 50 yds n saw no blood coming out wounds..none.
Same buck seen on game cam two weeks later, wounds healing, arrow gone.
I'm guessing in very rare instances when the arrow hits the deer has just exhaled, thus making the lungs much smaller. Hit that void just above the heart and its just meat cut unless you happen to catch a major artery.
If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it.
This is correct.
I made what what I thought was a perfect top of the heart bow shot on a buck about 6 yrs ago.
24 yds on a ridge that put him almost even with me, so no downward angle. Arrow shish-k-bobed him, maybe 2 inches above heart, where it should have caught the front of lungs. Buck stopped after bolting 15 yds and walked away with 4" of arrow sticking out of each side.
Not one drop of blood found, watched him through binoculars for maybe another 50 yds n saw no blood coming out wounds..none.
Same buck seen on game cam two weeks later, wounds healing, arrow gone.
I'm guessing in very rare instances when the arrow hits the deer has just exhaled, thus making the lungs much smaller. Hit that void just above the heart and its just meat cut unless you happen to catch a major artery.
If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:15 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:18 am to AUTimbo
FWIW that incident is the event that made me switch to Rage broadheads.
Haven't lost a deer since.
(Even though I would rank Grim Reapers right there in effectiveness)
Haven't lost a deer since.
(Even though I would rank Grim Reapers right there in effectiveness)
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:21 am to AUTimbo
quote:This is what usually happens. My guess is, the arrow is really close to the bottom of the spinal column.
with 4" of arrow sticking out of each side
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:58 am to halleburton
It's real.
I don't know what the real explanation for it is, but in sure anybody who has been bow hunting for a long time has at least one story about an arrow stuck in the deer and it being killed a few weeks later with a scar where you think lungs should be.
I don't know what the real explanation for it is, but in sure anybody who has been bow hunting for a long time has at least one story about an arrow stuck in the deer and it being killed a few weeks later with a scar where you think lungs should be.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:37 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:That's crazy. What caliber rifle and bullet was he shooting? Amazing it survived that.
There is an episode of whitetail properties where the guy hunting shoots a big arse 12 point right behind the shoulder about 3-4 inches from the bottom of his chest. They lose the blood trail and the deer is killed a week later chasing does.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:44 pm to AUTimbo
quote:That's an incredible story.
walked away with 4" of arrow sticking out of each side.
Not one drop of blood found, watched him through binoculars for maybe another 50 yds n saw no blood coming out wounds..none.
Same buck seen on game cam two weeks later, wounds healing, arrow gone.
Page 1 of 1
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News