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Boat Motor Bandit
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Silver Labs
Lets hear it. I wanna know what all of y'all know, hear, and see about this newest designer breed. Weimaraner and Labrador aka. (SILVER LAB). What are the precentages of each that make the best dog? Health concerns? Is this just a fad and will fade? Will it infiltrate our great Lab blood lines and mess up the breed since paperwork is so easy to fake? Pro's Con's.....GEAUX.


HouseofWaffles
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Member since Nov 2014
2344 posts

re: Silver Labs
Wife is dying for one.


Not paying what they want for one. Gorgeous dogs though.


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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re: Silver Labs
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Weimaraner and Labrador aka.
That's not what it is. Recessive genes. We already discussed it and opinions are mixed. You will get a lot of misinformation in the responses.


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53654 posts

re: Silver Labs
You posted in this one.


Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
742 posts

re: Silver Labs
Yea they are sky high on what folks are asking for them.

AXLTGR, LSU Vet tells me otherwise. Recessive genes are just that. They rarely show up and will surely not split off and become semi-dominate and take on the numbers we are seeing bred for sale. He tells me it is a dilute gene only found in the Weimeraner breed that shows itself well when crossbred with Labradors. He was explaining the recessive gene phenomenon folks have tried to play off. and when you are having litters where the recessive gene is showing itself more than about 3% of the time, you better start asking questions. Something about probability and a punit square. I didn't get it but he is the genius not I


Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
742 posts

re: Silver Labs
Yep been looking more into it for the kids recently and wanna know who basically has the best ones out there. Like what % say 25 Weimeraner and 75 lab makes the better dog. ???? Weimeraner are way hyper want as much of that bred out as possible so to speak


DownSouthDave
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Walker
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re: Silver Labs
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Weimeraner are way hyper want as much of that bred out as possible so to speak


Easy, don't buy a part weimeraner.


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Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
742 posts

re: Silver Labs
I gotta know if this high dollar investment will be around long enough to pay for itself or is it getting a bad rap and gonna be a over night price drop and I'm left with mutt puppies, a bunch of vet bills because its unhealthy, or lookin stupid cause he got a hold of the neighbors high dollar field lab


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53654 posts

re: Silver Labs
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Do They Contain Weimaraner Genes?

The major belief is that the dilute d gene was introduced into the breed by cross breeding with Weimaraners. This breed always carries the dilute d gene and have the distinctive silver, gray or dilute color.


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In my research, I’ve been unable to find any concrete evidence that the silvers contain Weimaraner genes. It will be interesting to keep an eye on this story as it unveils in the coming years.


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oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: Silver Labs
Beautiful dogs, but for the price i would not buy one. They are not registered as silver labs, they will be registered as chocolate labs. They carry a recessive gene which could carry multiple genetic issues down the road. Just not something im willing to deal with spending that kinda money


TheDrunkenTigah
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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re: Silver Labs
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AXLTGR, LSU Vet tells me otherwise. Recessive genes are just that. They rarely show up and will surely not split off and become semi-dominate and take on the numbers we are seeing bred for sale. He tells me it is a dilute gene only found in the Weimeraner breed that shows itself well when crossbred with Labradors. He was explaining the recessive gene phenomenon folks have tried to play off. and when you are having litters where the recessive gene is showing itself more than about 3% of the time, you better start asking questions. Something about probability and a punit square. I didn't get it but he is the genius not I


I have one and I agree with everything the vet said. While it's possible to get dilute colors with a pure lab bloodline, it's not happening at the rate they're popping up now. Bout what you would expect mixing the two, very high energy and needy, but smart and driven. I have to be careful because he will give himself heat stroke before he stops retrieving.


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53654 posts

re: Silver Labs
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They carry a recessive gene which could carry multiple genetic issues down the road
You sure about that?


hogfly
Arkansas Fan
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
3062 posts

re: Silver Labs
Just the chance that they'd act anything like a weimeraner is enough to throw me off. Those dogs are nuts and suck (our neighbors have repeatedly bought new ones, and they have the worst personalities... like a GSP without the usefulness).



Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
742 posts

re: Silver Labs
I'm not arguing in the fact that it is a pure bred lab with you axltgr because it just isn't. At the number of silver ones that are produced and sold and now whole kennels of them. Yea we get it. It is a cross breed. My question still stands. At what % is making the best dog? Anyone hearing anything on this?


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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re: Silver Labs
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I'm not arguing in the fact that it is a pure bred lab with you axltgr because it just isn't.
You can't support that.

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My question still stands. At what % is making the best dog? Anyone hearing anything on this?

That's not how this works. If there is Weimaraner involved, it was long ago.

You're a Bossier alter, right?


Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
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re: Silver Labs
No I'm not from the Bossier area. And I'll stick to what the LSU Vet school is telling me but thanks. Have a good day sir.


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53654 posts

re: Silver Labs
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And I'll stick to what the LSU Vet school is telling me but thanks.
You listened poorly.


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yallallcrazy
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2007
436 posts

re: Silver Labs
Alx has a point. Even if there is Weim involved, it isn't like breeding a Lab and a poodle to make a Labradoodle.

Now, that doesn't mean some folks aren't taking that shortcut to get a silver colored mutt that looks like a lab.
I wouldn't go that route at all.

Breeding dogs purely for color usually means disregarding all traits but color. Until a color line is well established I would say buyer beware...

ETA: nice article LINK
This post was edited on 8/10 at 3:35 pm


killinme_smalls
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
247 posts

re: Silver Labs
Look into the blue lacy instead. Great dogs and look like a 45 lb silver lab.


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canyon
LSU Fan
Lower Keys/Coloweedo
Member since Dec 2003
6507 posts

re: Silver Labs
Wrong to manipulate genetics like this.


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