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Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1119 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:20 pm
Long story short won a Browning X-bolt 30.06, two weeks ago, had a bunch of cabelas points so I went and bought a new Leupold VX-3i this past weekend. Free mounting and bore sighting too - made it to the range this afternoon.

1st shot @25 high 3 inches
2nd shite @25 inch high
3rd shot @100 off the paper
4th shot @50 6 inches high, left 3 inches
5th shot @50 5.5 inches high, left 3 inches

3 more shots at 50 and it was still hanging high and left.

Crappy mount job or does it need a different base?
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:28 pm to
What kind of mounts you got?
Posted by 4mileduckman
orig from lake charles
Member since Jan 2013
876 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:33 pm to
Try different ammo as well.
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1119 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:48 pm to
Leupold STD low mount system. Absolutely love the scope, point purchases are a good thing when the better half is next to you in the checkout line and doesn't know about the points.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18112 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:57 pm to
Make sure everything on the scope and base are tight. If it is switch ammo.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Try different ammo as well.

This could well be it. Happened to me with my 30-30. switched ammo and problem solved.
Let us know how you resolve it.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 6:46 pm to
How many clicks are you turning when you make adjustments? You do know that the closer you are the more clicks you need, right?
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7607 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:26 pm to
You are too high. Adjust your scope at 25yds so you are shooting 1/2 in low.

You will hit close to bullseye at 100yds.

The adjustment is 1/4 in at 100 yds. 1/8in at 50 yds, 1/16 in at 25 yds. It will take a lot of clicks at 25 yds.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:00 pm to
I think the problem is the rifle, not the scope

But any way it should do better than that

Get a sheet of plywood and cover with paper, put it at 100 yards and put gun in a vice , get about 4 different boxes of ammo, with difffrent bullet weights and shoot each 3-4 times letting the barrel cool well in between, pick your best grouping and then walk it into the bullseye

D.O.P.E. data of previous engagements
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:47 pm to
You want to be low at 25 yards, not high.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7607 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 6:43 am to
Zero the elevation of your scope by counting how many clicks it takes from top to bottom of adjustment. It should be around 260 if I remember right.

Then count the clicks to go back to half of the 260 or whatever number you got. That is the center of adjustment.

If you bottom out the elevation and you are still high The scope might be the problem.

3 inches high at 25 yds = 3.5in x 16 clicks =56 clicks down. You should be close to bullseye at 100yds. Adjust from there.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 6:45 am
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7623 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:07 am to
Buy some Federal ammo
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:11 am to
It's hard to diagnose the issue with the given information. Are the last 3 shots fired without adjustments? Did they group together?
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2079 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:21 am to
That 2nd shite is the problem.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:28 am to
New Gun?? have you tempered the barrel good before you started to sight it in???? Push a cheap box of 20 rds thru it as fast as you can so it can heat the shite outta that barrel. Let it cool back down to ambient temp then sight it in the next day at 25yds to a dead perfect zero. Then step out to 50yds to just make sure the left and right are still on. it will be shooting a little higher than it did at 25 yds and that's good. Then out to 75yds. Rememeber your adjusting right and left don't worry about height yet. Then out to 100yds and it should be great left and right and about 4 inches high. Remember to let barrel cool down 5 to 10 minutes every second shot. This way your getting as close to a cold barrel shot as possible. then bring it down at 100 to where you like it. Usually .5" to .75" low at 25yds will put most deer calibers about 2.5" to 3" inches high at 100yds. Good luck and always temper a new barrel good. Has worked great for me for many years. Have several rifles that have been dead on accurate for 20+ years with minimal adjusting after its done right
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:31 am to
quote:

New Gun?? have you tempered the barrel good before you started to sight it in???? Push a cheap box of 20 rds thru it as fast as you can so it can heat the shite outta that barrel. Let it cool back down to ambient temp then sight it in the next day at 25yds to a dead perfect zero.

This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Browning X-bolt

But I hear they are great for the money and completely infallible.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:01 am to
Chatrabbit77, Stupid in your lack of knowledge, yet it came as a break-in suggestion for many manufacture owners manuals up until the late 80's and is also a practice still used in every Military sniper school across the globe to date. Rifle break in is paramount in protecting thier life.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Rifle break in is paramount in protecting thier life.


But running 20 rounds of cheap shite quickly through the rifle to heat up the barrel is kind of dumb with modern manufacturing techniques. Especially on barrels that have been finish lapped.

Break in is less for the bore, and more the throat. The reaming marks left in the throat are across the lands. If you let copper build up in the bore every subsequent shot will make the copper harder to remove. This is why a lot of people do a break in to get the throat polished by using a one shot then clean procedure.

There is no one procedure to rule them all. I don't believe I have ever heard of shooting fast to generate heat but I suppose anything is possible.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 10:20 am
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Rifle break in is paramount in protecting thier life.


So everything written in the 80's is relevant today? There is no data to prove that a rifle is more accurate after a break in period vs not having one, especially when dealing with modern barrels and other modern components. This is complete misinformation.
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