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Retriever Training
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:52 pm
Anyone on here use Bill Hillman dvd's? Looking for a good puppy training aid that I can use during the obedience learning phase.
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:01 pm to toots-N-scoots
Hillman's program is good, but it doesn't mesh well with other programs, so if you go that route stick with it.
I normally recommend Fowl Dawgs DVD series. I think it's great.
I normally recommend Fowl Dawgs DVD series. I think it's great.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:04 am to bluemoons
Will you elaborate a little on why it doesn't mesh well please
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:28 am to toots-N-scoots
Very difficult to beat the Mike Lardy Series especially if you want to incorporate an e collar at some point.
However MUCH better than any dvd or book would be to get involved in a local retriever club. Where are you located?
However MUCH better than any dvd or book would be to get involved in a local retriever club. Where are you located?
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:12 am to Da Hammer
I used to be part of Cajun HRC and have trained at least 5 labs. My highest level of completion is HRCH.
I'm in Houston now and it's a lot harder to get a training routine in the city. I want a good system because I want to potentially run field trials and AKC hunt tests. I also want to use a system in the beginning then send my pup out to a filed trail trainer to see if she has the talent and I don't want to pay him for all of the basic stuff.
I'm in Houston now and it's a lot harder to get a training routine in the city. I want a good system because I want to potentially run field trials and AKC hunt tests. I also want to use a system in the beginning then send my pup out to a filed trail trainer to see if she has the talent and I don't want to pay him for all of the basic stuff.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:59 am to toots-N-scoots
What do you mean by basic stuff. obedience; sit here heel; or going into force fetch. I used to like to get pups that had a lot of socialization and as many marks as possible. Teaching the sit,here,heel commands should be no problem for you. If you want a competition type dog you will want to build desire for retrieves and give plenty of marks which will build into challenging marks as time goes on. Bill Hillman has a different way of forcing which can conflict with early training that many other pros use as most use some sort if not the exact program that Lardy uses. The more positive,confidence building situations you can create the more likely you will maximize your dogs potential. Concentrate on building a stable pup that likes to retrieve.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:39 pm to toots-N-scoots
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I'm in Houston now and it's a lot harder to get a training routine in the city.
What part? I have a 10 month old YLF that I am prepping for her first duck season. I also ran hunt tests with my previous Labs and was pretty active with our HRC club up in NE LA but that's been almost 10 years ago. I have ran a few tests down here and might hook up with one. Looking to get back in running tests this Spring after duck season.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:20 pm to toots-N-scoots
The Fowl Dawgs DVD Series is what was recommended to me by a trainer in the Baton Rouge area.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:44 pm to MWP
Meyerland/Bellaire area.. I have 3 month old BLF out of FC AFC Bayou Teche Eye On The Ball "Slider". My buddy bought a male and we train together.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:15 am to toots-N-scoots
Slider is a nice dog. If you haven't picked a trainer Ryan Brasseaux might be a good choice.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:45 am to Ppro
Clint Avant was recommended by Sliders owner. This my second pup from Choppers lineage. First female was directly from Chopper, had all the fire you wanted but needed to be steadied. I really want a super steady line dog this time because the retrieving desire should already be cooked in.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 9:09 pm to toots-N-scoots
If you're interested in running field trials, then forget anything associated with HRC. Don't get me wrong, HRC is a wonderful venue, but it won't prep a competitive FT dog. The difference in a little HT dog and a FT competitor is huge.
My suggestion is to go with Lardy's material. It's a comprehensive guide that is easy to understand, but if you send a dog to a pro for FT's, expect the pro to put them back through a yard program. You're not really gonna save much by trying to do it yourself.
Clint is a very good pro, as are Tim Milligan, Ryan Brasseaux, and Charlie Moody.
YMMV, but I base my opinion on having titled a GRHRCH in HRC, a judge in HRC and AKC FT's, as well as titling Master dogs and running All Age FT stakes.
My suggestion is to go with Lardy's material. It's a comprehensive guide that is easy to understand, but if you send a dog to a pro for FT's, expect the pro to put them back through a yard program. You're not really gonna save much by trying to do it yourself.
Clint is a very good pro, as are Tim Milligan, Ryan Brasseaux, and Charlie Moody.
YMMV, but I base my opinion on having titled a GRHRCH in HRC, a judge in HRC and AKC FT's, as well as titling Master dogs and running All Age FT stakes.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 9:18 pm
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