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Refreshing topic: Culls of the Whitetail Deer

Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:35 pm


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Some hunters believe weird antlers are a problem that should be fixed by killing the buck. We disagree, and these antler casts help explain why. This buck lived at Mississippi State University’s Deer Lab research center, and his antlers are arranged from age 1.5 on the bottom to age 4.5 at the top. The odd antler at age 2.5 resulted from an injury during antler growth, but the buck returned to normal antler growth every year after that. So, if a buck’s estimated AGE meets your personal goal, enjoy him, but if it doesn’t, and he’s wearing a weird antler, give him the benefit of the doubt.




I've seen so many people, even on here, see an abnormal rack and immediately think it's an inferior deer and want to kill it ASAP
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:06 pm to
Can we get the link to this?
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:12 pm to
Saw that article a while back and was telling someone about it. What it all boils down to is unless you have at least 2 years of encounters with a deer you really don't know
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37699 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:13 pm to
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AGE




Should be the only criteria in managing bucks.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:18 pm to
I'd have probably shot him at 2.5yrs because I think the horns look cool that way.

He's got some cool junk on his antlers every year though. I've never seen one like the top left with such a fine split in the g5.
Posted by bonescanner
Member since Oct 2011
2234 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:30 pm to
yeah that G5 is cool looking. Never seen one like that.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:35 pm to
I would think that his 1st set of antlers were pretty impressive and he showed potential.

I don't see why anyone would think him a cull buck.

Pretty apparent 2nd set of antlers were an injury year.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:59 pm to
Correct, but I see it all the time that people find anything that looks different and kills the deer claiming it was a "cull"
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14535 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:17 pm to
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This buck lived at Mississippi State University’s Deer Lab research center


So obviously the deer is dead now. What happened? They offering hunts too?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:19 pm to
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yeah that G5 is cool looking. Never seen one like that

Am I the only one that sees camel toe?
Posted by ChandlerB03
Natchez, MS
Member since Nov 2015
1790 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:34 pm to
QDMA...seen a few stickers around. Can some give me the quick run down of what they do exactly?
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1270 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Am I the only one that sees camel toe?



Not anymore!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:48 pm to
Yay, another example of people doing it wrong.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5527 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:06 pm to
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Yay, another example of people doing it wrong.


Care to explain?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:45 pm to
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Care to explain?
The OP is a frequent poster of anti cull propaganda. Cull is a real thing. The deer that is subject of this thread would not be a cull under any rules made by people who understand culls.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38360 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:01 pm to
I'm not a deer hunter, but I was under the impression that a "cull buck" was an older, larger (i.e. dominant and gets to mate with the does) deer that lacked "trophy" antlers. Basically a 5 year old 6 point that weighs over 200 would be a cull buck. Is that not accurate?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:32 pm to
That's one type. A 2 year old that is not showing proper antler growth for his age group could also be a cull.

Several guys on here have leases that say, 2 year old 6 point...pew pew.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:45 pm to
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I'm not a deer hunter, but I was under the impression that a "cull buck" was an older, larger (i.e. dominant and gets to mate with the does) deer that lacked "trophy" antlers. Basically a 5 year old 6 point that weighs over 200 would be a cull buck


You're close. I don't know if there is an across the board agreement on what a cull should be, or what age it should reach that threashold. In my opinion very, very few bucks should be killed as a cull because youre not really improving your heard. Especially if he has passed his genetics on for 4-5 years already. Not to mention that 50% of a bucks genetics come from its mother so no real way of knowing what doe is carrying good and bad genetics.

We have a very serious issue with 6 & 7 points on our place. We've had 2 older 7 points weighing over 200 lbs killed this year and one still on camera. According the one of our neighbors, his huge 6pt was aged at 8 years old. I think this is a direct result of 15 years of deer management where the club required bucks to be 8pt or better with a minimum 13" spread. They have killed every 3 year old, and some 2 year old 8, 9, and 10pt over the years while the others have been allowed to live. In reality and for our situation, any 2 year old or older buck with 6pt should be "culled". Maybe but really I don't know

Here is an example. I guessed this buck to be 4 years old. He, and 3 other smaller bucks were chasing a doe. He weighted 190 and no doubt had lost some weight from chasing. We get a lot of bucks like this one that have a small G3 on one side making them a 7



This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:49 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:41 am to
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The deer that is subject of this thread would not be a cull under any rules made by people who understand culls.
I completely agree. Why do I post this "propaganda" you ask? Well that's because the majority of people do not understand culls. They just shoot ugly young deer and slap the cull tag on it.
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