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Question for any OB carpenters/lumberjacks

Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:45 pm
I'm going to fell some trees on my land and have them sawed to build my two sons and I a new deer camp. How many 16' logs with a avg diameter of 25" will I need to build a camp 20'x40' with a 12' lean to on the side for 4-wheelers? I'm also gonna do board and batten to finish the outside with, so take that into consideration. Thanks in advance
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:53 pm to
Paging fish
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:17 pm to
tree-fiddy
Posted by Boxcar
Richmond VA
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 5:02 pm to
I donno but have always wanted to do the same thing. Good luck and please send us picks when its done
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 5:07 pm to
Thanks baw, it's gonna be a special place because my two young sons and I will build it with trees from our land, the land we hunt, and with our own hands together. I can't think of a more special place than that for a father and his sons.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 5:35 pm to
Me and my dad have built several buildings, barns, furniture etc from lumber that came from our land. It's an awesome experience. We cut it, hauled it and had someone bring a portable sawmill to saw it. I have no idea how much it will take to build something like that, nothing we built had floors or an inside wall, but it takes a lot more than you think. One suggestion is that if you are cutting your logs on 16', make your building dimensions match, 16' x 32' or 24' x 40', it'll save you a ton of lumber.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 6:11 pm to
Thanks for the advice! I was going to cut my logs 16'6" to allow for drying shrinkage and to square the ends up. I was going to go 20'x40' but makes alot more sense to go 24'x48'. I get a bigger building and don't have to saw 4' off every board and throw away.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

avg diameter of 25"


You measure these or guessing? 25" pine is a sure enough ground thumper.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:09 pm to
I've already measured and flagged the ones I want to cut. They are about 80" in circumference. I divided the circumference by Pi which is 3.145 and got the diameter. I think that's the way to do it. Plus it looks like I can get 4 16' logs out of every tree before hitting a limb. I've got some of the prettiest, slickest pines South Arkansas has to offer. Should make some beautiful lumber.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:16 pm to
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Paging fish

No shite, huh.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:17 pm to
If you're cutting a tree that's 24 inches in diameter and tall enough to net two 16 foot logs, you're going to get about 350+ ish board feet per log

Not all trees can be used for 2x4's so keep that in mind.

Cool project. Good luck

The Doyle rule

quote:

The Doyle Rule (Table 1) is the most widely used rule, especially on private timber in the east and south. The formula is simple and easy to remember. This formula says to subtract four inches from the diameter for slabs and edgings, square the result, and adjust for log length. Log taper is ignored.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:33 pm to
I believe a 2x4x8 is 5.25 board feet
16' tall by 25" is 440bdft

Without loss, that's 84 boards, but I'm guessing you will only get 2/3-3/4 of that since trees are not perfectly round or without defect, so maybe 60 2x4x8 boards I guess. Figure out how many you need for building your place first


*I'm just winging it


Eta: If you can get 64ft of logs out of them, cut them in 10ft sections and you can theoretically get 265 2x4x10s out of the tree
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 7:42 pm
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:44 pm to
OK OP. Here is the take.

Use these calculators

LINK

It is about the best you can get. Kind of having a bad day and now have a buzz.



I will get back to you with more info in the morning.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 8:37 pm to
Thanks boys, I appreciate all input.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Kind of having a bad day and now have a buzz.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 4:49 am to
Spankum, it sure was one of those days that just fell apart.

Two phone calls that was bad news. Then a flat on my backhoe. Go to move that, POP, yep, I busted the transaxle. Ripped the ring gear to shite. Started pulling it apart yesterday.

OP, let me know if you need someone to saw for you. I can hook you up with a portable mill in your area.
Posted by D.B.Cooper
Member since Nov 2012
220 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:23 am to
Fish
What would a rough estimate be for what the OP is wanting done? I know that are lot of variables but would like an idea.
Sorry to hear about your day yesterday.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:10 pm to
Kind of hard to say. Most people that saw charge around $60 an hour along with your help tailing(unloading, stacking boards).Best to have two or three people doing that or it will slow down production. Sounds high, but if you have support equipment like a tractor, having the logs staged to were the mill can be close to the logs, that saves a ton of time and money.

A good fully auto mill can saw a easy 600-800 BF per hour. All depends what is being sawed. 2x4' or 2x6's, ect.

First thing you would really need to do is make out a sawing/lumber list. From there, a good sawer will know about how much time it would take him to do the job.

Oh, one more thing. If a sawer hits metal, be ready to throw a twenty dollar bill his way for a replacement blade cost. One nail wipes out a blade in a heart beat. shite shite AND MORE shite. Done it a few times.

Here is a link that will point out sawers in your area. Also has info on how to hire one.

LINK
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Thanks baw, it's gonna be a special place because my two young sons and I will build it with trees from our land, the land we hunt, and with our own hands together. I can't think of a more special place than that for a father and his sons.


I have lots of things, and lots of resources to acquire more things,

yet I am extremely jealous of your current and future setup.

Bravo good sir. Please keep us posted on the project, sounds truly amazing.
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