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Question for active CCA members

Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:07 pm
What do you feel you get out of your donations?

Do you feel their mission statement holds any truth?

quote:

Mission Statement The stated purpose of CCA is to advise and educate the public on conservation of marine resources. The objective of CCA is to conserve, promote and enhance the present and future availability of these coastal resources for the benefit and enjoyment of the general public.


Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5129 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:13 pm to
CCA Louisiana is just there for a fishing tournament. They out in a reef or two every now and again and do a couple other feel good projects that do not really amount to anything. They don't have the capacity to do any large scale restoration events in coastal Louisiana
Posted by nahtanojc
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
980 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:14 pm to
I used to pay $25/yr in membership fees for CCA. In return, id get a couple $10 off coupons at Academy twice a year for both my son and I. (His membership is $10/yr.).

So my $35 donation gave me $40 off at academy, which I do visit often! Not a bad deal.

I've paid the extra $25/yr star fee for the last 10 or so years... In return I've won a truck and a $1500gift card over the years. I'd say my CCA donations have paid off for me.

Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I've paid the extra $25/yr star fee for the last 10 or so years... In return I've won a truck and a $1500gift card over the years. I'd say my CCA donations have paid off for me.


That's like saying playing the Louisiana lottery has been a wise investment.

I'm interested specifically in what they have done for their memebers as far as coastal conservation in concerned.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4183 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

What do you feel you get out of your donations?


they do provide a voice for "the fish". also, what other organization is out there defending recreational fishing rights exclusively and not just general outdoorsmen?
also, i won a $5,000 offshore package in the STAR tourney a few years ago, so i'm ahead of the curve.
Posted by nahtanojc
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
980 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:26 pm to
True, but being in the black versus the red definitely changes your outlook on the donations.

But I have not donated money to them other than the membership and STAR. However, CCA has helped with building a kayak launch that I use often, as well as a couple reefs that are near shore and within paddle distance that I do use or plan to use in the future.
Posted by fishbaja2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
199 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:39 pm to
"Mack the knife". Are you the ghost of BR bar owner and fish cleaner guy in Venice that always had large dogs ;). Fond memories ........
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:46 pm to
Does your issue with CCA as an organization have to do with them wanting to restore areas that are fenced off from public use?

Honest question because you seem to not like them very much.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:47 pm to
I thought you were all about fly fishing reds? CCA made a name for themselves getting gamefish status and suing for netting restrictions.

I see CCA as the NRA of fishing. Most of the work is done in the political forum and the less you hear about it, the better they're probably doing at it.

For $30 bucks a year I feel like it's worth it just to have an advocate for recreational fishing. I spend three times that much a year on netflix and I don't even watch it.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4183 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

fishbaja2


nope. i got axed' that when i first got on the OB years ago.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Does your issue with CCA as an organization have to do with them wanting to restore areas that are fenced off from public use?

Honest question because you seem to not like them very much.


No. Not at all. I hold the state of Louisiana responsible for that mess. However, I do find it interesting that CCA's very own mission statement contradicts their stance on public access.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

I thought you were all about fly fishing reds? CCA made a name for themselves getting gamefish status and suing for netting restrictions.


Are you sure that was not GCCA?

Either way, that was nearly 25 years go. That accomplishment is no longer relevant. It's especially irrelevant considering CCA backed off they bowfishing redfish restrictions. After all redfish have gamefish status , do they not?
Posted by cdogwinn
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2016
183 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

However, I do find it interesting that CCA's very own mission statement contradicts their stance on public access.


As a member I would like to see them fight for the general public's ability to fish certain areas. I make a decent living but don't make nearly enough to get access to those gated canals and private marshes but I feel as if a large organization like CCA got behind that it would make better fishing for all of us little guys.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:


As a member I would like to see them fight for the general public's ability to fish certain areas.


But they have stated publicly they will do no such thing.

10 or 11 years ago when the shite started hitting the fan Director Jeff Angers said securing the rights of the public to access all tidal waters is not CCA's issue.

They have taken a hard line stance on the subject because it is not a "conservation issue." Their yeti fund will dry up if they alienate their big land owning members.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Are you sure that was not GCCA?
it was. I supported the GCCA.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Are you sure that was not GCCA?


Same organization, just changed the name as other states from around the country started similar organizations and wanted to be under the same banner. There are now chapters of CCA in the pacific northwest and in new england, so Gulf Coast Conservation Association didn't really fit anymore.

quote:

Either way, that was nearly 25 years go. That accomplishment is no longer relevant. It's especially irrelevant considering CCA backed off they bowfishing redfish restrictions. After all redfish have gamefish status , do they not?


I won't argue specifics of that since I really don't know much about the bow fishing issue, but the gill-net ban was challenged in court for many, many years and as recently as 2000. I would assume bowfishing is still subject to recreational limits and a drop in the bucket compared to gill nets and purse seines. Like I said, I support CCA because they're the closest thing to an organized lobby recreational fishermen have. They're like a good left tackle, the less you hear about them the better job they're probably doing.

Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7365 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

 the gill-net ban was challenged in court for many, many years and as recently 16 years ago


Still old news.
quote:

 the less you hear about them the better job they're probably doing. 

If I wasn't accomplishing anything while constantly taking your money, I would love for you to think that too. Every time I throw a snapper back, I thank the CCA for their stellar work.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Director Jeff Angers said securing the rights of the public to access all tidal waters is not CCA's issue.

They have taken a hard line stance on the subject because it is not a "conservation issue."


Do you disagree with him? I'll admit I stay as far away from y'all's 1812 threads as I can, but until the state settles it, it's not CCA's job to spend donated money to maintain someone's private land.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

What do you feel you get out of your donations?

Coastal conservation.

quote:

Do you feel their mission statement holds any truth?

Yes
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

If I wasn't accomplishing anything while constantly taking your money, I would love for you to think that too. Every time I throw a snapper back, I thank the CCA for their stellar work.



So don't donate to CCA? I said earlier it's my opinion that their work is worth 30 bucks a year to me. Seems pretty simple if you don't feel the same then just don't write them a check.
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