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Panfish versus crickets

Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:26 am
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:26 am
Local lake I fish at has a crazy amount of pan fish in it. I can't get them to bite on a beetle spin at all. I can run 10 different colors through a spot 10 different times each and not get a single bite. But put a phucking cricket on a hook and before the weight can sink it the bobber is running off.

I find crickets to be a pain in the arse to fish with! From having to go get them at the bait shop, to the large numbers you go through in a fishing trip, the fragile state of the bait, harder to handle, rebating time, them getting lose in the boat and setting up shop in there...etc.

So I ordered some Berkeley crickets but they haven't come in yet. The fish hit the live crickets so fast that I can't see how they will be able to tell the difference?

Also, I froze about 100 crickets and put them 20 to a little medicine bottle in the freezer. My thought is that I can just grab a bottle and throw it in the cooler when i walk out the door. Then i can hit the spot with a couple of crickets to get the smell/taste in the water and then move to the plastic after that.

So my questions are:

Anyone ever have any luck fishing with plastic crickets?

Anyone ever fish with frozen crickets?

Does anyone know of any type of "cricket spray" that might help the plastic?

This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 5:56 am
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:48 am to
Have you tried a tube jig under a cork?
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:54 am to
I did but all I had on me at the time was a pack of white and a pack of black tubes. So I don't know if it was the color or the fact that they weren't interested in the tube set up? I'll take all of my different colors out there next time. I just had them in a different tackle bag that I didn't grab.

Posted by computerguy
Orlando
Member since Oct 2007
1235 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:38 am to
If you are looking for quick and easy baits you can try: shrimp, hot dogs, or corn

When they are biting that way one of the things I find works really well is a wet style fly tipped with shrimp under a cork. The smaller the fly the better if they are picky.

You can also try the gulp worms, crickets, leaches, etc...They make little panfish jars. I had some good luck tipping flies under a cork with the gulp worms.

To answer your original question. I never had any luck with the plastic crickets but then again I only tried a couple times.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 6:39 am
Posted by twogapper55
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
116 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:40 am to
Get a fly rod. Rig it with a popping bug and tie a black bream killer behind it on a 2 foot leader. If that pond is as loaded as you say you will be pulling them in 2 at a time!
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:52 am to
quote:

looking for quick and easy


My reasoning is kind of 2-fold. I like to fish and when im fishing, i really dint mind using whatever they are biting on. But I've got two 2 year olds that I am trying to figure out a way that they can catch their own fish. Right now the only thing they can do is real in fish after I catch them/set the hook.

If I had some durable bait I could let them attempt to catch their own but with using live bait...I just spend all of our time rebating lines.

So my quest is to fid something that is durable enough that we can spend more time catching fish and less time baiting line.
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:53 am to
quote:

fly rod


That's an option for me...but not the kids.....I should have made my 1st post more clear.
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:55 am to
On a side note....I found this pic while looking around. Thought it was funny. Fish either looks pissed or stoned.

Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18352 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:27 am to
chum up the water with bread crumbs. Bread on a hook
Posted by rballa19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4379 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:34 am to
I've used the brown ones before, and caught quite a few bream on them. They don't hold up real well, though, and I went through a pack pretty quick. They hold up better than live FWIW
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27676 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:34 am to
Try a jig under cork with a crappie bite on the hook.

This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 7:37 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30576 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Then i can hit the spot with a couple of crickets to get the smell/taste in the water and then move to the plastic after that.



This will not work. As soon as you change to artificial the bite will stop with bream.


The two best baits for bream are crickets and worms.

Worms hold up much better than crickets. You can catch 3-4 fish on one worm. But it takes longer to bait your hook and your hands get dirty quickly. Plus, I usually have to cut the worms in half b/c the ones I buy are to long.

Crickets can be put on a hook very quickly. It's very clean. But they are usually one cricket for one fish. If you like to whip your bait out there you can actually throw the cricket off before your hook hits the water.

Between the two I prefer crickets for bream. If there are catfish in the area I use worms b/c I often catch both fish while bream fishing.

Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30576 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:15 am to
FYI, use an ultra light action spin cast rod and reel while bream fishing. The big bream feel like a 3-4 lb bass while using this setup.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Try a jig under cork with a crappie bite on the hook.


this
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56172 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:48 am to
when I am in beds, I usually pinch all their little heads and kill em so I don't have to chase them around, you can just have a pile of em beside you.

Never tried any plastic crickets,
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59556 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:01 am to
Fishers choice


Your
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Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29237 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:31 am to
Plastic crickets will not work.

If you don't like real crickets, the answer is worms.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
19997 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:43 am to
Fish is pissed that he fell for the lure.....LOL.
Posted by Dooshay
CEBA
Member since Jun 2011
29879 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:44 am to
I love drowning crickets. Get a good cricket box and put half a potato in it and they'll keep for a while.

Eta: i've caught bream on gummy bears, sunflower seeds, and just about anything I have laying around when they are biting.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 10:46 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:10 am to
Best baits for panfish in the south IMHO

grass shrimp



brown crickets
earth worms
red wigglers
field crickets
grasshoppers




any other meat (original slim jims work and stay on a hook FOREVER)








but for fast fishing with kids without the troubles of live bait try a wet fly as mentioned above.



I use a small weighted cork,

with a small wet fly (scuds, midges, small wooly buggers), or unweighted baitkeeper hook with a a small soft plastic bait tied 18 -30 " below the cork.







Frequently the rate of fall is the key. Crickets sink slowly and so should your bait. So cast out, wait 3-5 seconds and pull the cork forward 6" and then wait again. Repeat and load the cooler.
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