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OB electricians, need advice
Posted on 12/19/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 3:48 pm
Somehow I managed to develop a break in my line to a kitchen outlet, which is downstream of a gfci. I need to run a new line between the gfci and the 2nd receptacle. What is the most efficient way to fish a new line into an existing wall box?
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:09 pm to rented mule
fish tape from lowes or home depot. Theres a good chance you may can pull the new wire in using the old wire if there aren't any staples between the receptacles.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:22 pm to 007mag
What he said
Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:44 pm to 007mag
quote:
there aren't any staples between
There are
Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:55 pm to rented mule
If it is stapled, you may have to go up to the header in the attic and back down.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:57 pm to rented mule
What makes you think you have a break in the line?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:03 pm to rented mule
Quiet Tiger is right, could be a bad receptacle. Have you put a meter on it?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:23 pm to MSWebfoot
quote:Happens 10000x more often than a cut wire (unless a DIY'er cut the wire)
bad receptacle
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:56 pm to Hammertime
OK, here's the situation: gfci with 3 receptacles downstream. All 3 receptacles stopped working, gfci works. Replaced gfci, same result. Replaced all 3 outlets, same result. I get 120v with a meter on both line and load at gfci but 0v at the next receptacle. I made a jumper and ran it between the gfci and the next outlet and got power to that outlet and all outlets downstream. If its anything other than a bad line between gfci and next outlet, I'd love to know. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:08 pm to rented mule
Look under the counter for a receptacle, or even behind the stove. You just have a loose connection. People do stupid things, did you build the house?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:11 pm to rented mule
I have nothing to add. The only thing this makes me think about is the buy telling me put the black wire to the gold screw. Said "just remember black people like gold teeth." I've never forgotten.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:20 pm to rented mule
Try this, locate the circuit breaker and turn it off, if anything goes off that was hot before you might have found the problem source. Vent, micro, DW, outside outlet near the area. You can't go by the codes at this point, think outside the box.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:42 pm to QuietTiger
Wouldn't the fact that I can jump the gfci to the next outlet and get power pretty much pinpoint a problem in the line between those two points?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:52 pm to rented mule
quote:
Wouldn't the fact that I can jump the gfci to the next outlet and get power pretty much pinpoint a problem in the line between those two points?
Sure it does, but the problem doesn't have to be a wire from point A as you think of it to point B which could be C or D. Get my drift?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:56 pm to rented mule
There is a probability that there's a receptacle that you've overlooked between the two where the problem is. Like a garbage disposal or dishwasher. It's highly unlikely that a wire in the wall gets damaged unless you've done some remodeling in the area.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:17 pm to 007mag
I dont know, the dishwasher and disposal are on separate circuits and both are functional(even with the troublesome circuit turned off at the breaker).
Ive traced the wires as best I can and have documented that the line runs from the breaker panel>gfci>2nd outlet about 3ft away to next 2outlets down the line. Those outlets dont work unless I run a jumper from gfci to the next outlet.
Ive traced the wires as best I can and have documented that the line runs from the breaker panel>gfci>2nd outlet about 3ft away to next 2outlets down the line. Those outlets dont work unless I run a jumper from gfci to the next outlet.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:43 am to rented mule
This just stopped working all of the sudden?
As the others have stated, it does seem very far fetched that a wire could break while sitting behind the wall untouched. Anything is possible though.
As the others have stated, it does seem very far fetched that a wire could break while sitting behind the wall untouched. Anything is possible though.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:59 am to rented mule
Sometimes electricians do some wacky things. I have several outlets in our house whose location makes no sense given the circuit they're on.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:07 am to rented mule
As has been said, while it is possible that the line broke in the wall unexplainably, there's about a .01% chance this is the case. Is it on or near and exterior wall since you are sure about there being no more receptacles in the house under a cabinet or something?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:37 am to rented mule
Have you checked for outside outlets tied to this circuit? Don't assume that all the outlets on this circuit are inside your house. It wasn't clear how well you were able to trace the wiring in ceiling/walls.
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