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re: New Louisiana Used Boat Tax question

Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:42 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:42 am to
So, I emailed Revenue re: the legislation. Here's what they sent me.

quote:

Good morning

Thank you for contacting the Louisiana Department of Revenue. Below is some information from our FAQ section website in regards to registering a boat with the department. Boat Registration FAQ
? Isolated or Casual Sales:
? Taxed at 4% on purchases from April 1, 2016 through June 30, 2016 then taxed at 2% from July 1, 2016 through June 30, 2018.
Louisiana R.S.47:301(10)(c)(ii) excludes casual or isolated sales from the definition of "retail sale", when the property is sold by persons who do not hold themselves out to be dealers of such items.
Person to Person Sales of Boats (includes out-of-state). A boat purchased from a prior owner or someone not in the business of selling boats is a casual or isolated sale.
? The prior owner’s title, certificate of origin, or Wildlife and Fisheries registration certificate must be properly signed over to the new owner with a notarized bill of sale signed by both parties.
? Retail Sales

Taxed at 5%



So, the first part seems to indicate that casual sales will be taxed. Then, casual sales are specifically not retail sales under 301. Casual sales are not taxed under 302 or 303. Screw tax law.
Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
746 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:48 pm to
Sold a boat recently and the notary informed the new buyer that LA recently started collecting sales tax on used boats. Not sure if they hit him or not but it was news to both of us at the time. She was adamant about it.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

So, the first part seems to indicate that casual sales will be taxed. Then, casual sales are specifically not retail sales under 301. Casual sales are not taxed under 302 or 303. Screw tax law.




Still not an ounce of clarification in their reply...

First it says it's taxed at 4%. Then the very next sentence says isolated or casual sales are jot retail sails when the seller does not present themselves as a dealer.

So we ended up getting a boat but from a Mississippi seller, who was not in the business of selling boats...
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56201 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 2:32 pm to
So retail is 5% and casual is 4%?

Thanks John Bel
Posted by LSUchuck
Member since Dec 2004
1546 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:03 pm to
Now you're even supposed to collect tax when you have a garage sale. Yea ok. I'll have one and say someone came and stole everything.

Democrats gonna democrat.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I'll have one and say someone came and stole everything.

Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:23 pm to
The online statutes and forms that we all have access to do not yet reflect the changes made in the recent special session. (Surprise, surprise it's taking them awhile to actual do some work) LDWF will not issue registration without an R1331. They're doing it because with boats they actually have a way of making you pay up, holding out the registration. With other casual sales, there's no way to actually make you pay. You buy your neighbors lawnmower and no one's gonna collect anything.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

The online statutes
Any idea how long it takes Westlaw to get those? Know which number the casual sales will be in?
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:39 pm to
Unfortunately no. I'm interested to see them as well.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

The online statutes and forms that we all have access to do not yet reflect the changes made in the recent special session. (Surprise, surprise it's taking them awhile to actual do some work) LDWF will not issue registration without an R1331.


The DOR website page pertaining to boat registration is updated. Mid-way down the page there's a link to an updated R1331 form that was amended in 04/16.

The new form also includes a tax rate breakdown table for the next 3 years on the 2nd page.

This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4715 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 4:12 pm to
sold mine about a month ago, 7250 in cash and I don't think thats what was on the bill of sale.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:05 pm to
Anyone seen the June issue of Louisiana Sportsman yet? I got mine in the mail yesterday.

Page 16...

Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
7593 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:07 pm to
I bought a used boat a month ago. The seller was gracious enough to leave the sale amounts blank on the BOS.
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