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re: My week without my conceal carry firearm

Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18580 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:00 pm to
Yes and I drive using defensive driving techniques also.

I suppose because I drive using defensive driving I am some sort of paranoid weirdo in your eyes.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

If people are that worried about personal safety, shouldn't they also enrich their training in personal defense type martial arts Kung fu free flow pro doe type shite, not every situation of safety calls for the use of a gun



Martial arts aren't a good option for most people however there are valid non-lethal options available that can serve people well instead of a firearm.

Stuff you might not think of. For example wasp spray can be an effective deterrent. Serious distance capability with nasty chemicals.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 9:25 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34592 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:23 pm to
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Better to have it and never need it, then need it but never had it.


Just like a parachute: when you need one, you need it really bad, right away.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:28 pm to
I'm gonna jump in this tomorrow...

Can't wait..
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1829 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 6:59 am to
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I suppose because I drive using defensive driving I am some sort of paranoid weirdo in your eyes.

Depends. If you simply drive defensively by staying aware of your surroundings and staying one step ahead of other drivers, then no. If you must drive with your helmet and fireproof suit to feel secure, then yes.

And for the record. I never said that those who carry are paranoid. I just don't understand the paranoia some have when they can't carry at times.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 7:00 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83522 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Why call someone weird that chooses to carry? No one is forcing you to do the same.


I didn't call anyone weird that chooses to carry. People that get nervous and feel scared when they go out in public without carrying are weird to me though.

quote:

No one is forcing you to do the same.


no shite?

anymore strawman arguments you want to throw at me?
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:15 am to
I side with those who don't wish to rely on thoughts of "I've never felt unsafe in public to where I needed a gun before" and decide that logic dictates a potential need to carry. Notice how I said potential. The reason I say potential is because saying "need" is not only subjective but relies on the future. Something isn't seen as a "need" until reality turns it into one. Then it's not really a "need" but in fact a bandaid. Carrying is a preventative measure. Why do I have to wait for something bad to happen to me to convince me to responsibly arm myself? Why can't I just prevent the bad event from the start or at least stack the cards in my favor?

Just like wearing a seatbelt every time I drive (not because the law says so, but because logic) in the rare event of an accident, I like to carry in the rare event that I encounter a deadly threat. Do I need it? I don't really know and won't ever know until it happens. Will it ever happen? Chances are small but if it does I'll be ready and will hopefully respond in an effective manner.

My 2 pennies...
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:19 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Shootings happen in "good" places every single day. Every. Single. Day.
You will never use your concealed weapon in a meaningful way, ever. You will change a flat.

Many of you need to take analogies 1021. Wait, you'd never test into it. Analogies 0007.

quote:

a person being in an area where a shooting happens
I do not plan on buying or selling illegal drugs any time soon.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30589 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:44 am to
I have never felt the need to carry a gun anywhere besides the woods. I don't hang out in crappy places and I avoid suspicious looking people or groups of people. Yep, I judge.


That being said I don't have a problem with someone who feels the need to carry in public. That is your right and if you have your CC then you know the consequences if you do decide to pull the trigger.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65043 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:46 am to
I'll give you an example. We are walking down a busy sidewalk with my wife and daughters. A dude jumps out of a doorway in front of my daughter and screams "ARRRRRRRRRR" about 2 feet from her. My instinct was to step back and see if I needed to engage in some way and remembered that I only had my fists at that point.

It was very intimidating. I would have been less intimidated if that happened at home. That was the point of this thread.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83522 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:46 am to
quote:

decide that logic dictates a potential need to carry. Notice how I said potential.


if I worried or planned for all the potential things that could happen I would never leave my bathroom
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:47 am to
So it's about feeling and not use
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1829 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:53 am to
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My instinct was to step back and see if I needed to engage in some way and remembered that I only had my fists at that point.

If he happened to be a threat, he would have done what he was going to do while you instinctively stepped back, because he was one step ahead of you. Same as the guy on here a while back that got mugged when getting out of his car with his girlfriend. Didn't matter that he was carrying as he was too worried about going to eat Taco Bell or something.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:58 am
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65043 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:56 am to
quote:

If he happened to be a threat, he would have done what he was going to do while you instinctively stepped back.


It's about options. I was missing one huge option.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:58 am to
quote:

if I worried or planned for all the potential things that could happen I would never leave my bathroom


Should I wait for a potential deadly encounter to happen to me before I decide to carry?

That's the point I was making. Read the rest of that paragraph you quoted.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1829 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:58 am to
See edited post above.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Same as the guy on here a while back that got mugged when getting out of his car with his girlfriend. Didn't matter that he was carrying as he was too worried about going to eat Taco Bell or something.


The criminal always decides when the fight starts. This is nothing new.

Concealed carry is purely reactionary. But I agree with Broke 100% that it gives you an option. It may not be the best option for every situation but it's an option nonetheless.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7057 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:01 am to
Cannot imagine living in a state that refuses to allow citizens to defend themselves.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10360 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:02 am to
Man some these responses on the ob are throwing me for a loop. Crime happens everyday in "safe" places, but hey some of you have a 6th sense and can avoid these situations. I, myself, am unable to spidey sense my way out of dangerous encounters (as rare as they may be) so I carry basically everywhere I can. Armed robberies happen in every part of Baton Rouge/New Orleans, so maybe I should just avoid those cities according to some posters.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1829 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:03 am to
Never said it's not a legitimate option when combined with the right instincts. 99% of people do not have the right instincts and will hesitate while the aggressor is in full mode of what he had planned, which makes that option useless. Again, revert back to the Taco Bell incident. It's just a fact.
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