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Looking for information on Chesapeake Bay Retrievers
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:38 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:38 am
My wife and I are looking for a dog that likes boats and the water. The Chesapeake Bay Retriever looks like a good choice but my concern is how well are they able to adapt to the hot summers of South LA. TIA
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:50 am to jobbieman
Just curious why a Chessie? I understand they are great dogs, but can tough to train.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:54 am to commode
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Just curious why a Chessie? I understand they are great dogs, but can tough to train.
Thanks for the reply regarding being hard to train. That's why I made the post. Just looking for good info on the breed. We really like the looks and size of the dog and would like to have a breed other than a Lab.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:04 am to jobbieman
Get a lab...
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:23 am to jobbieman
they are very good retrievers but require a firm hand when training them because they are really hard headed. their hard head works both ways in that they don't quit on you.
don't expect much out of them in the hotter weather either (same as labs).
i've hunted with a few of them (buddies dogs). all were quiet determined dogs that did their job. they do seem to have a unique smell.
don't expect much out of them in the hotter weather either (same as labs).
i've hunted with a few of them (buddies dogs). all were quiet determined dogs that did their job. they do seem to have a unique smell.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:42 am to mack the knife
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. they do seem to have a unique smell.
Is the smell offensive?
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:42 am to jobbieman
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dog that likes boats and the water.
There are a ton of breeds that satisfy this requirement.
Can you provide more? Small kids at home? Hunting?
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:46 am to jobbieman
I used to have one. They are extremely smart dogs and as stated above very hard headed. They are also extremely protective dogs. Great breed but if you don't have time to work with them daily I would not recommend getting one
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:04 am to jobbieman
Love my chessie. True that they are not a lab, but the difference may be a bit overstated in that sometimes you read things that make you think they are impossible to train.
They are still a dog!
Do good research on the line you get, especially temperament. Socialize the crap out of the puppy. They are definitely much more protective than a lab. No person my dog does not know is coming in my house without permission and even then he isn't quite sold for a few minutes lol.
Mine has spent time with a trainer who trains labs and did just fine.
VERY focused on the people/ family. More 'serious ' in personality than the typical goofy lab.
They do smell stronger than most labs.
More of a watchdog for sure.
Don't take pressure training as well as a lab.
They are still a dog!
Do good research on the line you get, especially temperament. Socialize the crap out of the puppy. They are definitely much more protective than a lab. No person my dog does not know is coming in my house without permission and even then he isn't quite sold for a few minutes lol.
Mine has spent time with a trainer who trains labs and did just fine.
VERY focused on the people/ family. More 'serious ' in personality than the typical goofy lab.
They do smell stronger than most labs.
More of a watchdog for sure.
Don't take pressure training as well as a lab.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:10 am to jobbieman
unless you are hunting big open water on the east coast/Great Lakes:
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Get a lab...
I have hunted my Chessie hard for 8 years and have been extremely happy with her. With her getting up in years I have thought about what I would do for my next dog and as great as my dog has been both in the field and the house (after i met my wife) I will likely go back to a lab. Just for the simple fact that they are so much more trainable and it's much easier to find a good lab then a Chessie. OP do not in any circumstance waste your money sending her to a trainer that does not work exclusively with Chessie's. It cost me 6 wasted months and a good bit of $, heed my advice and don't make the same mistake.
What's your household like? Are you married, have kids, plan to be married in the near future and starting a family? If so, get a lab. 99% of the stereotypes you hear about the CBR are true and will eventually show in your dog, no matter how much socialization and training you expose her to as a puppy.
I was truly scared of how my CBR was going to react when we brought our 1st daughter home 4 months ago. I felt like it was 50/50 she would be protective of her or super jealous because my wife's attention would be on the baby. Luckily she has handled it well, some of my favorite memories from this time will be watching my wife and baby girl dozing late at night with Rosie curled up on the rug in the nursery guarding the door against any intruders that may wander in.
Read as much as you can about the breed and if you see any traits that you aren't going to want to deal with get a lab.
If you are serious about getting a CBR contact Kathy Luthy from Rippling Water's Kennels and talk to her before making any decisions on a particular bloodline or a trainer (she is an awesome trainer and only fools with CBR's). She is located in Florida, close to the Destin/I-10 exit ramp so not to far to drop your dog off and still work with her once a month if she lets you.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 10:27 am to jobbieman
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Is the smell offensive?
not really. just more "dog" smell than a lab has. i think their coats/skin are more oily and this causes it.
like others have said, you need to have the time to spend with them. if i did have that time i would get one because i like their general disposition: quiet, not too aggressive but protective, smart, tough.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 10:34 am to mack the knife
The mistake you making that many make is looking for a dog that is 'not a lab' instead of figuring out what exact type of dog traits you want and then finding the dog that fits those. I see it all too often people try to find a new dog "similar to x dog" and are sorely dissapointed.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 10:39 am to commode
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but can tough to train.
nope.. just not cookie cutter... and yes they are different from labs
what ever you do - do not get a pup from parents that are DM carriers.....no DM test on either parent.. move along....
Posted on 1/9/17 at 10:54 am to jobbieman
Had a CBR in LA. Had to get the coat cut short by a groomer during the summers because the heat and humidity takes a huge toll on them. As long as you get the dog groomed it should be fine
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:02 am to Wildo Baggins
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Looking for information on Chesapeake Bay Retrievers
Had a CBR in LA. Had to get the coat cut short by a groomer during the summers because the heat and humidity takes a huge toll on them. As long as you get the dog groomed it should be fine
da fuq?
Ive known many people all my life with chessies in LA south tx and even florida and the is the first I have ever heard of that...
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:07 am to choupiquesushi
They have a thick double coat meant for cold and icy conditions.
Guess I felt guilty watching my dog pant in the 90 degree temperature with humidity.
Guess I felt guilty watching my dog pant in the 90 degree temperature with humidity.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:29 am to Wildo Baggins
Thanks for all of the information. It is definitely good stuff and I will take it to heart should I choose to get a CBR. Having read a little bit about the breed, I was aware of the protective nature, which is something that appeals to me since my wife and I are empty nesters. I have owned a dog with a heavy coat and would probably have it groomed to make the South LA summers more bearable.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:37 am to Wildo Baggins
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Had to get the coat cut short by a groomer during the summers because the heat and humidity takes a huge toll on them.
I remember when I was researching the breed and this was one of my biggest concerns. It's funny looking back at it now, as it has been a non issue while I had dismissed all of the other issues I read about the breed that proved to be much more challenging getting her trained and socialized.
Choupique, I am with you. My dog has never been groomed and is only bathed with soap when she gets extremely funky from rolling in a gut pile or something like that. Everything I read said to avoid soaps and shampoos because they will wreak havoc with the oils in the coat that help the breed shed water. She is a really clean dog, and will be completely clean of that special venice mud days before I am able to get it cleaned out from my fingernails.
I also think the dogs blood line plays a big factor in the coat. If the dog is from a line that has been bred in the south they typically have a thinner slightly wavy coat. The coat will fill in during the fall and drops quickly in the spring. (OP if this is going to be an inside dog be prepared for dog hair everywhere. They shed much more than the average lab). When I was picking up my dog from the trainer she had a CBR from Wisconsin in the kennel that the owners send down there to work during the winter. This was a stereotypical 120lb CBR with a full curly coat similar to an Airedale. It was a beautiful dog, but you could tell it would probably struggle a little bit hunting early season down here.
OP another thing no one has mentioned, if you decide to go with a CBR be prepared for the "beautiful chocolate lab" comments. Eventually you will learn to ignore them rather then explain that these dogs are a completely different breed.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:38 am to Wildo Baggins
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Looking for information on Chesapeake Bay Retrievers
They have a thick double coat meant for cold and icy conditions.
Guess I felt guilty watching my dog pant in the 90 degree temperature with humidity.
i know what they have..... they also have summer coats
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:26 pm to Whatafrekinchessiebr
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waste your money sending her to a trainer that does not work exclusively with Chessie's.
I spoke to my trainer at length before sending my dog. He has had experience with Chessies but certainly isn't an 'all Chessie" guy. Mostly, I was comfortable that he would adapt to the dog. "Train the dog in front of you" rather than straight cookbook. The lab "cookbook" may not work.
ETA: OP - I take no special precations with the coat. He does fine
In the end, I'm very happy. My dog hunts well, is great in the house, is well behaved on the street.
As you say, though, they are not a lab. If someone comes running up to him and he's not already giving the 'play with me' body language I'll slow their roll a little bit. They are very defensive/protective. Way more so than a lab. I think that's my wife's favorite trait, though! If I'm not home, you will not be able to get between him and her in the house if you just showed up there.
Those traits make me think that if anyone just wants a dog to ignore in the backyard, they may end up with a beast. The dog needs to be around people.
As far as hard to train, I agree w choupique. They are different. The get pissed with too much pressure. You have to go a little slower maybe. Not a ton, but enough that if you aren't reading the dog you may get frustrated. Now, this goes for hunting training. Mine was easy as heck to train for manners, etc. They are very smart.
ETA: OP- I take no special precautions with the coat, but like all dogs in the summertime you need to make sure there is shade, water, ventilation if they are outside all day.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 12:29 pm
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