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Ladder to Box Stand Angle
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:07 am
I have a box stand with 5' legs. I want to build a ladder that comes off the back, but I'm not sure about my angles.
1st round of math:
(5x5)+(5x5)=50
Square root of 50 is 7.07.
This would result in a ladder 7.07 feet long, with a 45 degree angle where the base of the ladder would sit 5' away from the stand.
My question is, Should I shorten the ladder and go for a steeper angle? What should that angle be? 60 degrees?
I figure the easiest way would be to make the original ladder, and saw the legs until I like the angle. My only draw back is more cuts and getting the the top of the ladder to sit flush against the stand for mounting. (As the ladder angle changes, so does the angle of the end cut to make it sit flush)
Is there a common angle I should shoot for?
Please down vote if this makes no sense.
1st round of math:
(5x5)+(5x5)=50
Square root of 50 is 7.07.
This would result in a ladder 7.07 feet long, with a 45 degree angle where the base of the ladder would sit 5' away from the stand.
My question is, Should I shorten the ladder and go for a steeper angle? What should that angle be? 60 degrees?
I figure the easiest way would be to make the original ladder, and saw the legs until I like the angle. My only draw back is more cuts and getting the the top of the ladder to sit flush against the stand for mounting. (As the ladder angle changes, so does the angle of the end cut to make it sit flush)
Is there a common angle I should shoot for?
Please down vote if this makes no sense.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:19 am to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:19 am to Clyde Tipton
45* is too flat for my liking. Just go 6'
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:26 am to Clyde Tipton
IIRC, normal indoor stair angle is a minimum 52° coming off of the top. It really is a personal choice.
Whatever you do, make sure to make the steps deep enough to get most of your boot on it
Whatever you do, make sure to make the steps deep enough to get most of your boot on it
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:32 am to Clyde Tipton
You have complicated building a ladder
Building a ladder or stairs?
quote:
make sure to make the steps deep enough to get most of your boot on it
Building a ladder or stairs?
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:41 am to FelicianaTigerfan
5ft, to me, seems like it would be more of a stair than a ladder (especially at 45 degrees). You can't really climb up a 5ft ladder
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:49 am to Clyde Tipton
Not sure regarding stands, but general rule of thumb for portable ladders is 1' horizontal for every 4' vertical.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:50 am to Hammertime
I have one that's 5' off the ground. I built a ladder that only has 4 rungs. Just some 2x4s nailed to 2x4s. Made it about 6' angled it out a little and screwed it to the stand. Was the easiest part of the build. Maybe not the prettiest thing but does the job
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:50 am to Clyde Tipton
According to OSHA standards, the bottom of the ladder should be a minimum of 15" from the base of the stand.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:53 am to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:55 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:02 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
You can get stair supports at a hardware store. Just nail the treads on. The only ladder ones I've hunted out of are always the box stands that are halfway tipping over and you have to climb towards yourself to get up
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:29 pm to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:48 pm to Jack Daniel
Exactly.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:48 pm to CHEDBALLZ
This is what I was thinking. touching ladder with arms extended and foot at base of ladder.
If the angle is correct at 75.5 deg with the opposite side at 5ft, using this calculator www.csgnetwork.com
- the ladder should be 5.16 ft (5' 1 29/32")
- the base should be 1.29 ft (1' 3 15/32") from the stand
- the opposite angle would be 14.5 deg
That should get you close enough for guvment work.
If you made the ladder too long you would wind up crawling on top of it vs climbing up it. Been there on a deer stand ladder.
If the angle is correct at 75.5 deg with the opposite side at 5ft, using this calculator www.csgnetwork.com
- the ladder should be 5.16 ft (5' 1 29/32")
- the base should be 1.29 ft (1' 3 15/32") from the stand
- the opposite angle would be 14.5 deg
That should get you close enough for guvment work.
If you made the ladder too long you would wind up crawling on top of it vs climbing up it. Been there on a deer stand ladder.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:52 pm to Clyde Tipton
On all the ones my dad built back in the day, I'm pretty sure you ended up upside-down at some part during the ascent. He had one that I remember you went from pipe, to nails, to a couple 2x4s, back to nails, then had to sling a leg in and grab the stand with your toes to kinda roll your body into the damn thing. It made us acrobatic, and for that I'm thankful.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:34 pm to CHEDBALLZ
That would be the 4 to 1 ratio
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:19 pm to Clyde Tipton
I always go with a 15 degree top angle on the ladder. I guess that would put the ladder at 75. Any flatter and you'll be climbing on your knees.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:29 pm to SCwTiger
Done. Thanks Baws.
Got it flush on the feet and the side attaching to the stand.
I got some L brackets to screw it to the stand. I may have to square off the top because I think the door might hit it. It'll work. Like someone said above. The old rungs were vertical and you damn near had to hang a toe to roll in the door.
Got it flush on the feet and the side attaching to the stand.
I got some L brackets to screw it to the stand. I may have to square off the top because I think the door might hit it. It'll work. Like someone said above. The old rungs were vertical and you damn near had to hang a toe to roll in the door.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:18 pm to Clyde Tipton
Dang that's some fancy angled cuts you made there 
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 4:19 pm
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