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re: It seems Sig Sauer has won the Handgun Contract for the US Army
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:43 pm to ChatRabbit77
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:43 pm to ChatRabbit77
Figured glock would get it..kinda surprised.
But at least the m9 is finally going away.thing weighs like 43 lbs
But at least the m9 is finally going away.thing weighs like 43 lbs
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:47 pm to SportTiger1
I picked up a p320 unexpectedly at a banquet auction.
I'm pleasantly surprised. Great little gun
I'm pleasantly surprised. Great little gun
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:48 pm to Clames
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Stick to the current M9's and spend the money on training.
While not a bad pistol, it got past by 20 years ago. The feds should be relatively up to date with tech. Would probably save money on the long run...isn't the m9 quite a bit more than the sig?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:54 pm to SportTiger1
Wasn't a manual safety one of the stipulations? Was Glock going to put one on the 19? BTW, I own an M9 and it's great.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:04 am to LSUlefty
Ah may be so. Why do they need a safety when no local agencies use one? Too many untrained IRS workers lol?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:08 am to SportTiger1
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Ah may be so. Why do they need a safety when no local agencies use one? Too many untrained IRS workers lol?
Pretty much. They'd rather spend money on a manual safety than spend money training people. As I understand it, sidearm training in the military is a joke/nonexistent.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:50 am to SportTiger1
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The feds should be relatively up to date with tech. Would probably save money on the long run...isn't the m9 quite a bit more than the sig?
And what is being advanced here? This Sig isn't going to shoot 9mm ball ammo any better than the M9. Not faster, not more accurately, and the 2 oz difference in weight is meaningless. Beretta offered the M9A3's for less than the current M9's. Combined with parts commonality and platform training retention, the Army is pissing away millions to solve a problem no new handgun is going to solve.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 5:38 am to Clames
You are 100% spot on, but also speaking to the problem that is our government in a nut shell. You could substitute this issue with many others and say pretty close to the exact same words.
FTR, in the Army, its embarrassing what they teach you in regards to the M9
FTR, in the Army, its embarrassing what they teach you in regards to the M9
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:10 am to Clames
I think Beretta lost this contract when they moved out of Maryland.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:43 am to dawg23
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no need for further imbalance in supply & demand for G19
except the SEALs recently adopted it as their official sidearm.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:04 am to ChatRabbit77
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P320
Awesome, ended up getting a bit too fouled up at this years DU banquet and bought one in 9mm without realizing the caliber. Already have 3 others 9mm, but this one definitely shoots the best right out of the box.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:23 am to ChatRabbit77
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non-caliber specific
modular grips grip that accepts a wide-range of hand-sizes (5th to 95th percentile)
ability to accept different fire-control devices/action types
ability to accept various magazine sizes
suppressor compatible
ability to mount “target enablers” (lights, lasers, etc) on a picatinny rail
match-grade accuracy (90% or better chance 4? circle at 50 meters)
low felt recoil impulse
The first requirement is unreal.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:28 am to Gaston
Everybody government spec I've ever seen has been unreal. The first release of a technical spec is usually laughably unrealistic. There's no telling how many drafts that first requirement has been through.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:32 am to Gaston
doesn't say anything about an external safety on that
on the grips I thought glock gen 4 had modifiable grips? I have gen 3s so I don't know
on the grips I thought glock gen 4 had modifiable grips? I have gen 3s so I don't know
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:31 am to upgrayedd
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As I understand it, sidearm training in the military is a joke/nonexistent.
I have a buddy who went from the Navy into USSS and he said the sidearm training is like 500x more advanced.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:32 am to CptRusty
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except the SEALs recently adopted it as their official sidearm.
As did the Marine Raiders, but those quantities won't come near the numbers required for the entire Army.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:34 am to Gaston
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ability to mount “target enablers” (lights, lasers, etc) on a picatinny rail
So is there an incoming contract with Surefire or Streamlight?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:34 am to Damone
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As did the Marine Raiders, but those quantities won't come near the numbers required for the entire Army.
No I'm talking about the dopes that'll be dropping their P226's and going out to buy G19s
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:36 am to CptRusty
Oh, in that case I wouldn't mind picking up a barely used P226 for cheap 
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:45 am to Damone
good point!
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