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I'm building an AR pistol

Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:43 am
Which upper should I get. There are a few lengths that I'm considering. Anything else I need to know?
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:49 am to
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Anything else I need to know?


It's a novelty firearm that I'll probably build one day. I wouldn't do a pistol as a first build. Most people can't hit anything past 20 yards with one.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:59 am to
He's an OLD hand at weapon manufacturin'.



hehe
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:07 am to
Which caliber and what length you going with?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:12 am to
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Which caliber and what length you going with?


5.56 and maybe 10.5

I have 2 other ARs so this is absolutely not a first build. I have an extra lower that I'm tired of looking at.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:15 am to
11.5
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:24 am to
I have a 10.5" 5.56 pistol that I converted to a SBR. Before I had the stamp I ran the Sig brace on it. It's one of my favorite ARs. Very fun to shoot, well balanced, and easy to carry around for extended periods.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:25 am to
Wanna sell that brace?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:25 am to
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11.5


Then this is what I'm getting. If Burge says this is what I need, this is what I'm getting.


ETA: and does anyone actually buy the 7" stuff?
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 10:29 am
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:35 am to
No thanks. I keep it so if I build another I can do it as a pistol while my I wait on my stamp.


Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:36 am to
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No thanks. I keep it so if I build another I can do it as a pistol while my I wait on my stamp.


You have a lot to learn here. You must sell me that. It's the rules of the OB. And I'm going to low ball you insultingly
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:37 am to
I'm glad I added that smiley before I was called a dick by half of the board.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:41 am to
Why BCM chose 11.5 over 10.5 this is the only time I ever link arf.com

quote:

Q: Why BCM chose the 11.5" SBR over the 10.5" 

I get this question a lot. It is a good one. When we spec our program we can build anything we would like, so we sat down and looked at the pros and cons. 

First Statement: I know a good 10.5" SBR can run very well. I personally own a semi MK18 type and it runs great. No problems. 

A: Dwell time. 
Dwell time is the time that your gas operated weapon maintains pressure to continue the cycling of the weapon. It primarily exsists from the time the bullet passes the gas port in the barrel to the time the bullet exits the muzzle. When you pull the trigger and fire the weapon the movement of the bolt carrier group unlocks the bolt, extracts, and ejects the spent casing. Then it cocks the weapon, feeds, chambers the next round, and then locks again. One of the thing that can make SBRs finicky is the dwell time (or lack of). 

The 11.5" carbine is approximately 4% longer weapon than its' 10.5" counterpart, but this extra inch gives the barrel a 40% increase in length for dwell time. IMHO, this is an excellent trade off. This additional dwell time (all other things being equal) will allow the carbine to be more forgiving to different ammo types, extremes in air temperature, weak or worn extractor springs, worn extractors, buffer weights, etc. 

Last Statement: For those folks who have a 10.5" that works very well, I would reply; me too. (see first statement) 

If I had to "go to war" with a AR15 Carbine, I would grab the BCM 11.5". 
The BCM 11.5" Runs Like a Dream. 

Hope this info helps, 
Paul 
Posted by LSUmakemewanna
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:02 am to
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Wanna sell that brace?



I've got a Phase 5 pistol buffer tube. I'd be willing to part ways with it. You could skip the brace (it's kind of ugly any ways )




Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:06 am to
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burgeman


Also to back up this post, 5.56 isn't nearly as effective out of a shorter barrel. For personal defense it shouldn't matter since you can get multiple shots on target quickly with an AR. But don't expect it to be able to reach out nearly as far as a 16"-20" AR.

But I will say they are super compact and fun as an SBR. As a pistol, there's little use in my mind. The ridiculous ATF regulations prevent us from just slapping a stock on it. Then again, don't put the Sig brace to your shoulder and effectively redesign it!!
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2465 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:08 am to
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You have a lot to learn here. You must sell me that. It's the rules of the OB. And I'm going to low ball you insultingly



Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:10 am to
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I've got a Phase 5 pistol buffer tube. I'd be willing to part ways with it.


I wish you would have shown me this 4 days ago. My LPK just came in today.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2465 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:11 am to
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Then again, don't put the Sig brace to your shoulder and effectively redesign it!!


Wait, people do this? I've only ever shot it strapped to my arm.
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:13 am to
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Wait, people do this? I've only ever shot it strapped to my arm.


Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1829 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Which upper should I get.

20" A2
quote:

Anything else I should know.

Put a stock on it.
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