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re: If you need more proof that the LDWF is a mess
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:50 pm to Hog Zealot
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:50 pm to Hog Zealot
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Although how much meat does a 12" speck really have? Do you just gut and chop the head off to cook like a Rainbow or Brown?
The best eating specs are the ones that snap back to 11.5" when you let go of them.
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 4:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
LDWF Releases All Stock Assessments
Link is to Louisiana Sportsmen Page about the release of all LDWF stock assessments.
Link to All Available LDWF Stock Assessments
Have fun reading guys!
Link is to Louisiana Sportsmen Page about the release of all LDWF stock assessments.
Link to All Available LDWF Stock Assessments
Have fun reading guys!
Posted on 9/20/16 at 4:39 pm to gaetti15
"The stock is neither overfished nor experiencing overfishing"
That last paragraph of the executive summary is about all I need to know right? I didn't read the scientific stuff all through the report.
That last paragraph of the executive summary is about all I need to know right? I didn't read the scientific stuff all through the report.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:43 pm to stoms
Yup
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:05 pm to The Last Coco
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But there is also some real-world experience to back up those computers. In 2006, yielding to requests from some guides and sports fishers hoping for more large specks, the state reduced regulations on Calcasieu Lake. The daily limit was dropped to 15, and although the minimum size remained at 12 inches, anglers were restricted to only two fish of more than 25 inches. The result six years later? "From our assessment, it did not increase the number of big fish in the system," Shepard reported. "Of course, we didn't anticipate it would."
At a meeting on Calcasieu Lake, we were told there was a 7 percent increase in the numbers of year class following this regulation. According to LDWF biologists, that was within the margin of error, and therefore insignificant. Let me ask this question, "How many of you would take a 7 percent increase in your income?". It may not be "significant" but, well, it is!
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:19 am to Jeff Goldblum
If they Lower the limit, can they start issuing dolphin tags to make up.for it?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 6:21 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:08 am to The Last Coco
This is the truth! 
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:15 am to unclejhim
The only stock assessment showing over fishing is the blue crabs.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:23 am to bayoudude
I know this will open a can of worms. But do any of you follow your local inshore charter boats on social media? It amazing that our stock numbers can stay up after seeing all the fish we pull out the water. I really do hope that the LDWF is correct on saying that the stocks are healthy. I keep my limit also but it crazy on how many fish the marsh really holds.
BTW I would be okay with only 15 12" specs and only 3 reds.
BTW I would be okay with only 15 12" specs and only 3 reds.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:32 am to snapper26
I can't stand the charter boat hero shots but I understand why they exist. The ones that string up dead bull reds are the worst but I digress.
I'm going to agree with you but for different reasons. I would even be cool with keeping the 25 fish limit but bringing the minimum length up to 14 to give those young fish a chance to reproduce one more time before sitting on someones freezer for the next year.
Another thing I would like to see would be the charter boats held to one redfish over 27 inches per boat. Everyone knows they are not good eating fish and the only reason boats even keep them is because they look good on facebook.
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BTW I would be okay with only 15 12" specs and only 3 reds.
I'm going to agree with you but for different reasons. I would even be cool with keeping the 25 fish limit but bringing the minimum length up to 14 to give those young fish a chance to reproduce one more time before sitting on someones freezer for the next year.
Another thing I would like to see would be the charter boats held to one redfish over 27 inches per boat. Everyone knows they are not good eating fish and the only reason boats even keep them is because they look good on facebook.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:39 am to Jeff Goldblum
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At a meeting on Calcasieu Lake, we were told there was a 7 percent increase in the numbers of year class following this regulation.
7% increase in the number of year classes? Clarify this because that doesn't make very much sense sentence wise lol
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:39 am to Barf
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Another thing I would like to see would be the charter boats held to one redfish over 27 inches per boat. Everyone knows they are not good eating fish and the only reason boats even keep them is because they look good on facebook.
Yep.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:41 am to Barf
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Another thing I would like to see would be the charter boats held to one redfish over 27 inches per boat. Everyone knows they are not good eating fish and the only reason boats even keep them is because they look good on facebook
We actually need to start harvesting those bad boys in the EEZ so they can get a good idea on the age structure of the adult populations in the gulf.
Red fish population is super healthy
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:42 am to snapper26
You're talking about just a handful of guys who catch that way consistently.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:46 am to Jeff Goldblum
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"How many of you would take a 7 percent increase in your income?". It may not be "significant" but, well, it is!
Statistical analysis works by evaluating whether the results are there because there is actual significance or by random chance.
An analysis that yields a significance value of .05 or better is considered significant. Basically that means that there is only a 1/20 chance that data yielded a random result, and therefore the result can be trusted.
Their data didn't reach significance level required to be called significant, so the 7% increase can't be trusted.
Now if they continue to get the same results with replicated sampling then the significance level may be able to be reached.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:48 am to gaetti15
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We actually need to start harvesting those bad boys in the EEZ so they can get a good idea on the age structure of the adult populations in the gulf
Harvest by research teams is not the same thing as a 6 pack captain killing bulls when the trout bite is slow. There is no reason to hang those big fish up for pictures.
To be perfectly honest, I don't hate the idea of giving everyone an extra redfish or two if the over slot keeper was removed.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:51 am to Jeff Goldblum
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At a meeting on Calcasieu Lake, we were told there was a 7 percent increase in the numbers of year class following this regulation. According to LDWF biologists, that was within the margin of error, and therefore insignificant. Let me ask this question, "How many of you would take a 7 percent increase in your income?". It may not be "significant" but, well, it is!
He is talking about statistical significance. By saying it's not "significant" he is referring to a technical statistics term meaning that 7% is within the margin of error for the survey, hence it could just be coincidence based on the specific data points they have, not representative of the population at large. It could correlate to the larger population but due to their survey techniques they are unable to definitively say that. What he is NOT saying is that a 7% increase is insignificant.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:53 am to jimbeam
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You're talking about just a handful of guys who catch that way consistently.
Well I know of one operation that will stay on a school of inshore slot reds and fish 5 boats with 5 people for a month. That just drives me crazy when people fish the same spot until all the fish are gone before finding new waters.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:16 am to voros79
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A preliminary draft of the state auditor’s report — which hasn’t been made public yet — reveals some Gulf oil spill money intended to ensure Louisiana-caught fish were safe for consumption after the BP disaster instead purchased unnecessary boats, iPads, cameras and fishing gear.
According to The Advocate in Baton Rouge, the auditor’s findings indicate the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries’ safety program was so mismanaged, it couldn’t even declare if fish were good to eat.
Auditors found widespread financial issues across the department, including questionable purchases, spending with little oversight and missing fishing equipment, guns and drones that belong to the state.
"Overall, our procedures identified a lack of management oversight over LDWF funds and operations," Legislative Auditor Daryl Purpera's office says in the draft report, which notes the findings are subject to further review and revision. The audit examined spending from 2010 through 2015, when Robert Barham was secretary of the department.
Testing of fish out of Venice especially came under scrutiny, where about $3 million was spent from December 2010 through August 2014, according to The Advocate. According to the report, the Venice sampling team spent $2.3 million of the BP money for boats, fishing and water sports equipment, vehicles, groceries and other items that auditors said "appear excessive.”
For example, $18,000 in cameras and camera equipment were bought though photos weren't required for the fish testing and a department biologist said photos were never taken for the sampling, the draft report says.
It also cites $8,000 spent on computers and iPads not used in testing work and says at least $55,000 in property bought for the Venice team is missing, including more than 100 fishing rods and reels, coolers and other sporting equipment.
Current LDWF Secretary Charlie Melancon confirmed receipt of the draft, and said the department was fully cooperating with the auditor, but could not comment until the document is released to the public.
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