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How do I build a garden with a tractor?

Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:42 pm
I've always grown a small garden that I've worked pretty much by hand but I inherited a nice little John Deere 950. I have another larger Ford but never had this size and an opportunity to build a bigger garden.

I have a box blade with teeth and I think I'll buy a rotary tiller and a rower. Will this be all I need? I think rip the ground, then till, then row. I'm guessing that is about it?

Any pointers, help, "you're a dumbass" comments are appreciated.

Garden size about 50' x 70'.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55973 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:44 pm to
buy a gallon of roundup to kill the grass down....then you can rip it up and keep it plowed from now on.

fwiw, a large garden is a hell of a lot of work, so be careful how much you plant...
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:48 pm to
If I ever built a garden, I'd get the soil tested. It's cheap and easy
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:51 pm to
I'll have help working it I just have to get it ready and plant it. And I am about to order the tiller and rower. I flagged it today. I can't just rip the ground and till the grass under? Really trying to keep as chemical free as I can.

And I'm not against roundup-I kill the shite out of a lot of stuff and I mix it with diesel fuel to hedge my bet. I just want to try the garden a bit different.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:56 pm to
till shallow first then allow the grass to die before you till it deep. I don't know if you have ever ran a PTO tiller before but when you get ready to till the soil deep, pull the top link in as far as you can and be prepared to till the ground multiple times so tiller can get deep. Need to get the skids running below the loose soil. I recommend the videos from The Bayou Gardener. He has a lot of vids about raising a large garden with a tractor.

LINK /
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55973 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

I can't just rip the ground and till the grass under? Really trying to keep as chemical free as I can.


I understand...yes, if you rip the ground, you can turn the grass under and it will rot. the roto tillers make a beautiful bed to plant in, if you use them when the ground moisture is just right...they are great if you can stand the upkeep.

sounds to me like your plan will work very well...
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:21 pm to
That sounds Like you're going to have a nice garden. What are you planning on planting?

When you begin, take some pictures of the process
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:29 pm to
I would suggest skipping the roundup with the grass being dormant now anyway. Avoiding chemicals when you can with gardens. The soil test is a good suggestion.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:32 pm to
That's a big ole boy. I just watched a few. Thanks for the link.

I've never run a pro tiller but the one I'm buying has a slip clutch and is chain drive.

LINK

Anyone have any comments on Everthing Attachments?

I will go slow and take my time. Doesn't matter to me how many passes I need to make.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1316 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:34 pm to
I know the guy that owns EA and he's a wheeler and dealer but a good guy nonetheless.
It's a Sicma tiller made in China I believe. It would go along way if you bought one from the local Kubota, New Holland, etc tractor dealership in town. It may cost you a few hundred more but you will get parts and service from them and that can go along way. Terra Force makes a great tiller for about the same price and so does Taylor Way. These brands are probably what you will find at most tractor dealerships. Don't let them sell you an overpriced Land Pride or Bush Hog. It sounds like you will use it once or twice a year and that's it.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4714 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:41 am to
I'd find one for 100 on Craigslist before I did any new shite
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:47 am to
quote:

I'd find one for 100 on Craigslist before I did any new shite


Wishful thinking there.

A tiller is nice, but one can get a set of chopper and get down even deeper.

Soil test for sure.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21364 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:07 am to
Well you are correct , u can do this, but by early summer you will be overgrown in weeds. I keep a 70 by 40 garden and most of the work involves weeding. A few weeks into summer we give up on weeding and let them take over. I would roundup soon and then again next week, but jmho
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
1932 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:52 am to
Save yourself the headaches and Google "how to plant a garden in hay bales" It fricken easy, no weeds, produces very good
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:52 am to
Sicma is made in Italy not China and they make a lot of the name brands. I have a 7' Bush Hog brand bush hog on my Ford 5610 and it is a beast. But I think this one will do fine. I have a Land Pride grooming mower and it's not as well made.

And I have a garden in raised beds so I want to build this way not in hay bales. I have plenty of room and I also know this will be the first and it will be a many year work in progress. I'm not using the roundup and really don't mind weeds. Like I said I will have help maintaining once I get it in.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:01 am to
Most people make it way too hard. All I have is a disk on a very small tractor and I plant the size you are wanting. You don't have to kill the grass, but it will make it a lot less work on you if you do. I'm about to roundup and burn mine off so I can disk. The first time I made my garden I just disked the grass under and it took a while. If you get a rower you will be way ahead of me because I have to row up the hills with a hoe.

Before disking, I broadcast 100# of triple 13 and 100# of pelletized lime and disk it all in. Once the rows are made I plant, and in less than two months I am picking more than I want to fool with.

Good luck!
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:04 am to
I would definitely try to kill the grass before you do anything else.....otherwise it'll come back from rhizomes.

I did mine like this.


This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:14 am to
You can work on a garden good with that setup.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7706 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:23 am to
I'm old school. I just plow, disc, till, and plant. You'll like that rotary tiller once you learn how to use it most efficiently. Slow tractor ground speed, high engine RPM, tiller depth, and low gear. You'll probably dig a few trenches at the end of each row with that tiller while learning how to use it. If you have enough space, leave room to till between the mature plants with that power tiller. Otherwise, you're back to using a hand tiller and garden hoe.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:34 am to
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll burn the grass. I'll take my time on the tiller and learn it since I am buying it and intend to use it for years.
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