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Home Defense Gun Advice

Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:35 am
Posted by LSU_Anthony
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2015
315 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:35 am
I posted this in the O-T Lounge and decided the Outdoor Board would be the more appropriate place to post this question. Sorry if you responded to the post in the O-T lounge.

I have never been big into guns growing up, nor am I now either, but it seems as the years go on and crazy shite keeps happening I have come to the conclusion of buying a gun for home defense to protect my family.

We have a single shot 20 gauge shotgun thats been in the family for years that I will have which is probably more for just shooting stuff with and not for defense and I dont really think my wife will be able to use it in case I am not home.

I have looked into getting a Mossberg Pump Action 12 gauge 18.5 inch barrel, something quick, can hold more shells, and can be something my wife can handle if I am away.

So I ask, what type of guns do you keep at the house for home defense? And what kind of gun do you recommend for home defense?

Thanks!
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:39 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:37 am to
20ga would be plenty
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:38 am to
Your OT thread got anchored because the title wasn't good enough.

Change it to "home defense gun advice" or something like that.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:38 am to
I have the Remington 870 Home Defense. Short barrel, holds 6 shells. The Mrs. can shoot it, doesn't enjoy shooting it, but she can. It kicks pretty hard but I wouldn't want anything else for Home Defense. Pistol in the nightstand as well...
Posted by LSU_Anthony
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2015
315 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:40 am to
Thanks, I was getting good information and jsut stopped, changed the topic line. Feel like I will get more info here.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:40 am to
A youth model Remington 870 20gauge is the perfect home defense gun if a woman/kid might have to use it IMO.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16537 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:40 am to
Basic pump-action shotgun is a safe bet under most circumstances. Mine is a Glock 26 with G19 mags. Everyone has their personal choice and justfications. Your choice and what you are comfortable handling matters the most, not what is posted in these threads.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:44 am to
My bedside guns are a Mossberg 500 and a Springfield XDM 40. I also have an AR loaded with Hornady Tap close. Anyways, all depends on what you are comfortable shooting.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:52 am to
I can grab both a shotgun and a pistol within a second. My house is only 1200 sqft, and I feel more comfortable with a pistol. I can hold it in close to my body when I move around since there isn't much room for separation in my place. A shotgun barrel is easily pushed away, and I'd have to constantly be backing up (which is completely against my nature).


Eta: Every one of my walls is wood, so I'm not worried about over-penetration
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:54 am to
Thanks for stopping by the OB. You will surely get more sound advice here.

quote:

We have a single shot 20 gauge shotgun


20 gauge is sufficient for stopping most living things but you're also at a severe disadvantage with only one shot.

quote:

a Mossberg Pump Action 12 gauge 18.5 inch barrel, something quick, can hold more shells, and can be something my wife can handle if I am away.


If neither of you have much shooting experience, a 12 gauge will be too much for her starting out. Not only that, if she starts on something with harsh recoil, she will more than likely think all guns act the same and it can ruin her perception. She has to slowly build her confidence before stepping up to something that size.

quote:

And what kind of gun do you recommend for home defense?


If you're wanting to limit the conversation to long guns, it's very hard to not recommend the AR15. I know what you're thinking, "OMG! That's overkill!" It's actually not and here are my reasons:

1. It has similar muzzle energy to a 12 gauge or 20 gauge (buckshot that is).

2. It is very slim and lightweight.

3. It has substantially less recoil than a shotgun (good for the wife). This also allows for faster follow-up shots.

4. It holds 10-30 rounds depending on what magazine you use.

5. You can use varmint ammo or Hornady TAP (which uses a varmint bullet) to assure you don't shoot someone and have the bullet pass through.

6. It is perfectly set up for optics from the factory. You can mount pretty much anything you want from iron sights all the way to a damn toaster oven.

7. It is extremely ergonomic.

8. An adjustable stock allows you to change the length-of-pull, which is great for a gun that both you and your wife will be using.

9. If I hear something in the night, my AR15 is my personal choice sitting under my bed.


If you're possibly leaning towards a handgun, I would say a full sized 9mm would be great for you and the wife for 2 main reasons: (1) magazine capacity (2) minimal recoil.


If you are still inexperienced and would like some training or advice, feel free to send me an email (bigapple828@aim.com). The AR15 is a great weapon but you still have to know the specifics of the platform before being not only confident but experienced with the platform. The same goes for a handgun. Everything takes practice.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:55 am to
Remember what I said about bapple in the O-T thread?

This is what I'm talking about.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Remember what I said about bapple in the O-T thread? This is what I'm talking about.




I didn't want to disappoint...
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:58 am to
moral of story:

Assault Rifles with lots of clips
sawed off shotguns (yes, saw must be used)
full sized 9's

all equal parts to the 3 step program of protecting one's family.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18364 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:58 am to
Don't over think it. Buy what you like and go with it. 99.9999999999% will be shooting at range and the rest will work for defense.

I have no real world experience of shooting bad guys, penetrating through walls, etc so I won't tell you my theories on what to buy.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:58 am to
quote:

clips


quote:

saw


:iamdisappoint:
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:59 am to
quote:

99.9999999999% will be shooting at range and the rest will work for defense.


"Beware the man who owns only 1 gun. He probably knows how to use it."
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 11:00 am
Posted by LSU_Anthony
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2015
315 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Remember what I said about bapple in the O-T thread?


Yea, I sure do!

quote:

I didn't want to disappoint...


You sure didn't!


Thanks for the info Bapple.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2465 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

I have looked into getting a Mossberg Pump Action 12 gauge 18.5 inch barrel, something quick, can hold more shells, and can be something my wife can handle if I am away.


I personally wouldn't use a pump. There is too much to do. Especially in a high stress situation. Not only will it hinder how many shots you can quickly put on an intruder, but it also hinders your mobility. Try opening a door with a shotgun, or moving anything with your support hand. You essentially will be one handed with a long shotgun trying to pump to reload. Whereas a good semi auto pistol you can maneuver around using a support hand to open doors, move things around, physically defend yourself, or even control a child. All this while keep the gun in hand ready to go. I keep a Glock 17 in the night stand, and an SBR in the closet.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Thanks for the info Bapple.




I highly advise you get some training if you and the wife are not experienced.

And feel free to email me if you have questions.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Yea, I sure do!


And we only really disagree about bird shot for home defense - something for which I am a lukewarm advocate at best.

The older I get, the more I think that AR-15 is probably the "least wrong" choice for 99% of self-defense firearm encounters. I mean, you can't carry it on your hip, but beyond that - one never knows what the encounter will bring - 30 rounds without reloading gives one the confidence to handle a wide variety of threats without having to obsess about "How many until empty?" "Where's my spare?" - and just focus on eliminating threats.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 11:07 am
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