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high energy dog breed question

Posted on 4/28/12 at 10:34 am
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 10:34 am
figured the OB would be the place to come for questions regarding dogs doing actual outdoor activities and not just sitting on the couch

so in my life i have had 2 dogs, both black labs, both pretty bad medical conditions requiring extensive surgeries and very expensive. both dogs were family dogs so they were able to have surgeries and live a full life, and one is still living the dream back at home with the parents.

however when i move me and the SO want to adopt a dog, we will obviously have enough money to support him/her but will not be able to swing a $5000 hip surgery, so labs are out of the question unfortunately.

we live an active lifestyle, we jog 1-3 miles everyday. if we dont jog we at least just go walk for an hour. in our new location we will be hiking every weekend almost, summiting 14'ers, so the dog will likely have a pack on it.

here is my question, what is a good breed, that meets the following criteria?

1. a dog that does not have lots of medical issues
2. work dog that can carry a pack for hiking
3. a high energy dog that will keep up with us when we are jogging

this will be my first high energy dog... im concerned that they will bark a lot and chew furniture... if i work him/her out regularly will that prevent things like that from happening?

the two dogs we have in mind are a wamarainer and a german shorthaired pointer... good or bad breeds for the previously stated?

also what dogs would you recommend???
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 11:32 am
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:15 am to
German Shorthair will run ten miles with you then ask for more and has arguably almost no medical problems if get the right bloodline. The pack would be a slight concern. It could carry its own food and water but not much else i would think. But a responsible owner would no its limits.

gsp's will tear up anything you let it and bark till horse in a kennel. well at least mine does/did.

GSP's are a little skinny for prolonged cold weather but as long as they're moving or with a pack or vest they'll be fine. Wickowick has 3-4 gsp's as well. i'm sure he'll chime in.

they are a very loyal breed that will love you no matter what. they do need a lot of activity for them to be happy
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 11:17 am
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:19 am to
agree with everything hass posted....gsps are a little light for a pack, but excel in every other category that you asked about...
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:20 am to
quote:

german shorthaired pointer


I have 3 and meet your criteria, tend to be great in the house after ~2 years, and great with kids...

quote:

if we dont jog we at least just go walk for an hour. in our new location we will be hiking every weekend almost, summiting 14'ers, so the dog will likely have a pack on it.


If you are in the woods or fields the dog will want to be off a leash. If you want a dog that will be on a leash the entire time, the GSP might no be for you. With a little training, it will wonder off and check in with you constantly. I would suggest a shock collar with a remote beeper. I really like the Dogtra brand. The collar gives you a mile range (hopefully you will not that you need it) and the ability to remote beep the dog and know where it is located...
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 11:21 am
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:23 am to
what other breeds would you recommend? i would prefer to keep him/her on a leash
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:27 am to
keeping them on a leash is not a "problem" per say but they much prefer to run free. with an e-collar and a little bit of training it shouldn't be an issue. i run with mine on a leash in residential/urban areas, but he much prefers to run on the levee with no leash.

they like to sprint constantly.
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:27 am to
quote:

i would prefer to keep him/her on a leash


Yea, it would be a constant battle, and the dog would not be happy. If you have never seen a shorthair work try to find a couple to be around before you rule that out leashless. It is effortless with my dogs, no upkeep, just walk and they stay around while still doing their thing.

I'm not sure what other dogs would be a good fit...
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:29 am to
Leash in a neighborhood is not a problem, it is the wide open that the dog would want to go...
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:29 am to
does anyone have experience with wamerainers? i have heard they are a good high energy dog?

also, say there is a 2 day period where we are unable to walk the dog.. which may happen once every few months.. how will the dog react?

my lab at home just sits on the couch all day... so its time for a workout buddy... motivation for everyone
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Leash in a neighborhood is not a problem, it is the wide open that the dog would want to go...


+1
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

also, say there is a 2 day period where we are unable to walk the dog.. which may happen once every few months.. how will the dog react?


Shorthairs are fine with a little down time after they reach 2 years of age they slow down a lot, still ready to go, but not hyper in the home...
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:32 am to
i wouldnt leave a Weimer or a GSP in the house with free range for any prolonged period of time in their younger years under any conditions. if they have a yard to run they'll be fine as long as they have a little room to run some energy off
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Shorthairs are fine with a little down time after they reach 2 years of age they slow down a lot, still ready to go, but not hyper in the home...



good to know... for the first two years, am i going to be the A-hole neighbor with the loud dog?
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:35 am to
just moved to a new neighborhood and left him in the kennel(10'x6'x6') for the first week and i had a note on my door informing me that i have been reported to local sherrifs office for noise violation. he barked constantly while i was at work. i caved and let him have free run of the yard and i dont think he barks anymore.

maybe maybe not.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:35 am to
When I leave mine at home alone I put a nylon muzzle on them to keep them from opening doors and leaving. I used to use a cage on my oldest, but he has broken out of EVERY cage he has ever been in besides my current aluminum dog box. Now I just add the muzzel and put them in their room where they have a bed and can look outside...
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:37 am to
quote:

A-hole neighbor with the loud dog?


Never had a problem with them barking, they are just hyper, like when you let them out they run full blast through the house to the door, normally jumping on or over the couch on the way...
Posted by nhassl1
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:38 am to
mine reached over a fence and lifted the hinge and let him self out as well. they are very smart dogs. lever style door knobs would let him get in any room in the house i would assume.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:51 am to
Your first choice was your best one.

This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 11:53 am
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 11:55 am to
what is the energy level of a GS? how would they do jogging up to 3 miles and doing overnight hikes?
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 12:00 pm to
GSD's were first bred and still use as working sheep dogs, I would think their energy level would be more than sufficient.


Also, they need to be mentally stimulated and being out and about is perfect for that. They want tasks to do and respond well when given one are able to complete it.
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 12:05 pm
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