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Posted on 9/29/13 at 3:27 pm to bulldog95
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I don't mind buying a glock used according to some here they are indestructible and always go bang.
Brad - because of your concerns about your CC weapon not having a "thumb slide" safety - I wanted to reiterate - Glocks do not have any manual safety levers of any kind - no frame mounted, no slide mounted, no grip mounted, no trigger guard button.
Many of us view this as a feature - but because of your concerns in the original post, I bring it up one final time to make sure.
Posted on 9/29/13 at 7:42 pm to KingRanch
Hard to argue with this. Hebert's has a lousy customer service record documented on a lot of gun forms (fora?).
CDNN had quite a few used Glocks (police trade-ins) last week. Also had NIB G19's for $499 (includes).
Yes, used Glocks are very reliable. They have a lifetime, zero-cost warranty. If you buy a used Glock, and have any worries at all about its condition, you can send it to Glock (Smyrna, GA). They will inspect it and replace any worn components, for zero cost.
CDNN had quite a few used Glocks (police trade-ins) last week. Also had NIB G19's for $499 (includes).
Yes, used Glocks are very reliable. They have a lifetime, zero-cost warranty. If you buy a used Glock, and have any worries at all about its condition, you can send it to Glock (Smyrna, GA). They will inspect it and replace any worn components, for zero cost.
Posted on 9/29/13 at 10:35 pm to dawg23
quote:
Yes, used Glocks are very reliable. They have a lifetime, zero-cost warranty.
quote:
Subject to terms, conditions and limitations outlined below, GLOCK, Inc. guarantees its pistols against defects in materials and workmanship that adversely affect their operation for a period of one (1) year from the date of their original purchase by the initial consumer. This warranty is valid only for pistols purchased and used in the United States of America, its territories and possessions and Puerto Rico.
Glock has a reputation for taking care of its customers but it's warranty is not as robust as SA's, Colt's, or S&W's.
This post was edited on 9/29/13 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 9/29/13 at 11:01 pm to bulldog95
Glocks don't gave a thumb safety. Get a Ruger SR45 or a 1911 if you want one.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:50 am to bulldog95
I just prefer the .45 over the .40. The .40 isn't a great round IMO. The glock 21 in .45 is a great weapon. Take a look at the 10mm glock, it's fantastic and not as bad as 99% of the pansies out there say it is.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:27 am to Jma313
Shoot both. I carry a Glock 21 and love it. I find that the .45 is more of a push while the .40 has a very snappy recoil. You will get used to either one if you shoot enough rounds through it.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:08 pm to bulldog95
Glock 21 is a smooth gun.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:24 pm to Clames
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Glock has a reputation for taking care of its customers but it's warranty is not as robust as SA's, Colt's, or S&W's.
I'd sure like to know what you're basing this on.
No offense, but you (a) must be somewhat unfamiliar with the factory service that firearm makers provide, and//or (b) are not familiar with the service that Glock provides.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:30 pm to dawg23
Smith and wesson's policy
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We will repair any defect in material or workmanship without charge to the original purchaser for as long as you own the handgun.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:18 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
S&W has good customer servcie.
But Glock will inspect and replace, at no charge, any parts on any of their guns, no matter how old, for the original buyer and all subsequent buyers.
At the other end of the spectrum is Kahr. Unless thiier policy has changed, they offer a 5 year warranty, and it is valid only for the original owner.
Story #1: I sent a Gen 2 G19 back to Glock a few years ago that had a cosmetic wear mark on the slide. The gun ran perfectly -- it just suddenly had this scratch mark.
I had bought the gun used (police trade-in) and pointed this out in the letter that I sent with the gun.
I was pretty sure why the wear mark had appeared -- I hadn't cleaned or lubed the gun in a couple of years, and was shooting 800-1000 rounds per week through it, at a pretty fast rate of fire (the slide and barrel would be too hot to hold at the end of a range session). I was sure that the lack of lube and the heat has probably caused one of the rails to shift slightly.
I don't recommend not lubing a gun, but this was my "range gun" (a clone of my carry gun), and after all, it was "just a Glock."
Two days after I shipped the gun to the Smyrna "factory," I got a phone call from one of Glock's customer service guys asking me if I wanted another Gen 2, or did I prefer a new Gen 3. They had decided to replace the entire gun under warranty (He said, yep, one rail was slightly out of alignment).
I reminded him that I had bought the gun used, and that I had personally fired over 140,000 rounds through it (no idea how many previous owners, or how many previous rounds had been fired through the gun). He said buying it used didn't matter, and said "140,000 rounds is nothing." He said they've inspected Glocks with twice as many rounds through them, and they don't expect to see this type of rail "shift."
I then reminded him that the gun still functioned perfectly. He said they knew that from test firing it -- they still wanted to replace it. So I accepted a new Gen 3.
Story #2: I bought a used Gen 2 G19 last year (no idea of how many previous owners or how many previous rounds). While dry-firing (I never actually shot the gun), the trigger engagement seemed slightly off, so I sent it to Glock for inspection.
I got the gun back a few weeks later with three old parts (which they had apparently replaced) in a small ziplock bag. None of these parts could have affected the engagement surface, so I called the tech support guys to ask what was going on.
The armorer I spoke with asked me for the serial number, which I gave to him. He then looked at the work ticket, and started naming the parts they had replaced. Bottom line -- they replaced every part in the gun except for the barrel and the frame.
I asked why he replaced all those parts. His answer was, on guns that old, they routinely install all new parts, due to possible wear and to provide upgrades that may have occurred since the gun was manufactured (this gun was over 20 yaers old).
Glock's charge for this was zero.
Oh -- forgot to mention. I shipped the gun to Glock in a cardboard box. They sent it back to me in one of the new style plastic cases, with owner's manual, cleaning brush, loading tool, etc. Charged me zilch.
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If you look over on GT you'll find that my experiences with Glock's warranty folks are not unqiue or special. If you ever need warranty help, they are just about the best anywhere (compared to other gun makers, or other manufacturers of any product..
It's unlikely that you'll ever wear out a new Glock. The point I was trying to make to the OP was that buying a used Glock carries little to no risk (unless the original owner has fired a lot of non-jacketed ammo in the gun w/o regular cleaning).
YMMV
But Glock will inspect and replace, at no charge, any parts on any of their guns, no matter how old, for the original buyer and all subsequent buyers.
At the other end of the spectrum is Kahr. Unless thiier policy has changed, they offer a 5 year warranty, and it is valid only for the original owner.
Story #1: I sent a Gen 2 G19 back to Glock a few years ago that had a cosmetic wear mark on the slide. The gun ran perfectly -- it just suddenly had this scratch mark.
I had bought the gun used (police trade-in) and pointed this out in the letter that I sent with the gun.
I was pretty sure why the wear mark had appeared -- I hadn't cleaned or lubed the gun in a couple of years, and was shooting 800-1000 rounds per week through it, at a pretty fast rate of fire (the slide and barrel would be too hot to hold at the end of a range session). I was sure that the lack of lube and the heat has probably caused one of the rails to shift slightly.
I don't recommend not lubing a gun, but this was my "range gun" (a clone of my carry gun), and after all, it was "just a Glock."
Two days after I shipped the gun to the Smyrna "factory," I got a phone call from one of Glock's customer service guys asking me if I wanted another Gen 2, or did I prefer a new Gen 3. They had decided to replace the entire gun under warranty (He said, yep, one rail was slightly out of alignment).
I reminded him that I had bought the gun used, and that I had personally fired over 140,000 rounds through it (no idea how many previous owners, or how many previous rounds had been fired through the gun). He said buying it used didn't matter, and said "140,000 rounds is nothing." He said they've inspected Glocks with twice as many rounds through them, and they don't expect to see this type of rail "shift."
I then reminded him that the gun still functioned perfectly. He said they knew that from test firing it -- they still wanted to replace it. So I accepted a new Gen 3.
Story #2: I bought a used Gen 2 G19 last year (no idea of how many previous owners or how many previous rounds). While dry-firing (I never actually shot the gun), the trigger engagement seemed slightly off, so I sent it to Glock for inspection.
I got the gun back a few weeks later with three old parts (which they had apparently replaced) in a small ziplock bag. None of these parts could have affected the engagement surface, so I called the tech support guys to ask what was going on.
The armorer I spoke with asked me for the serial number, which I gave to him. He then looked at the work ticket, and started naming the parts they had replaced. Bottom line -- they replaced every part in the gun except for the barrel and the frame.
I asked why he replaced all those parts. His answer was, on guns that old, they routinely install all new parts, due to possible wear and to provide upgrades that may have occurred since the gun was manufactured (this gun was over 20 yaers old).
Glock's charge for this was zero.
Oh -- forgot to mention. I shipped the gun to Glock in a cardboard box. They sent it back to me in one of the new style plastic cases, with owner's manual, cleaning brush, loading tool, etc. Charged me zilch.
.
.
.
.
If you look over on GT you'll find that my experiences with Glock's warranty folks are not unqiue or special. If you ever need warranty help, they are just about the best anywhere (compared to other gun makers, or other manufacturers of any product..
It's unlikely that you'll ever wear out a new Glock. The point I was trying to make to the OP was that buying a used Glock carries little to no risk (unless the original owner has fired a lot of non-jacketed ammo in the gun w/o regular cleaning).
YMMV
This post was edited on 10/2/13 at 9:14 am
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:23 pm to dawg23
Not trying to refute your experiences or anything. Just saying that if you take the warranties at face value (ie how they're worded) Smith's is a much more clear cut lifetime warranty than what was posted about the Glock one.
I've never had any issue with any manufacturer except marlin.
I've never had any issue with any manufacturer except marlin.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The only other gun I ever had to send back to the factory was an M&P (9mm). I had bought it used, but didn't mention this to them, and I guess the original buyer didn't send in a warranty card ?? (I didn't know until your post that their written policy limits warranty to original owner. Had I known I would have mentioned it to them).
I assume they fixed the problem (I haven't shot the gun since I got it back from the factory last year). I know they replaced the barrel and replaced the mags. All at no charge.
S&W is a first class company. I suspect they would have repaired it at no charge, even had they known I was not the original owner, given the issues they were having with early-production 9mm M&P's.
I assume they fixed the problem (I haven't shot the gun since I got it back from the factory last year). I know they replaced the barrel and replaced the mags. All at no charge.
S&W is a first class company. I suspect they would have repaired it at no charge, even had they known I was not the original owner, given the issues they were having with early-production 9mm M&P's.
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