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re: Gating canals in houma area
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:10 am to jdavid1
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:10 am to jdavid1
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Right or wrong, public or private canals, these landowners have a reason they put up the gates. That reason is assholes.
This sums it up in the shortest way possible. The gates wouldn't be going up if there wasn't a problem.
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:14 am to Scrowe
Most of the gates deal with hunting leases. Nothing like spending several thousand dollars a year on a lease for some a-hole to go rape it while you are at work because there is an opening into your lease from a canal.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:17 am to Barf
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We live in a state that allowed Biloxi Land to bully them into placing restrictions on Biloxi marsh WMA. That WMA is 100% privately owned and lease by the state of Louisiana. What would have happened if they told Biloxi land to piss off? Would they have thrown up a gate at Bakers canal and every entrance to the marsh outside of the main historically navigable state claimed water bottom that runs through the property?
Possibly there could be a happy middle ground where the state and landowners can come together with the state perhaps purchasing strategic bottoms or leasing access to allow passage to state lands that are by chance locked in, but it would seem like this would fall into a right of way issue allowing the ability to access property that is locked in without public access.
It's a long road but I don't think you can come in and tell the land owners now after all these years and them leasing their property that they essentially lose much of the value of their leases. Maybe even have it to where during hunting the canals are closed but when it's not hunting season they can be open. They will have to use a scalpel and not a hatchet to solve the problem to appease both sides. Thing is I don't think the public side will ever be satisfied until the private side is completely ravaged of the value in their asset.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:19 am to bayoudude
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Most of the gates deal with hunting leases. Nothing like spending several thousand dollars a year on a lease for some a-hole to go rape it while you are at work because there is an opening into your lease from a canal.
Is this the majority of the cases or are people getting pissed off about people fishing on their lease?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:20 am to bayoudude
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Most of the gates deal with hunting leases. Nothing like spending several thousand dollars a year on a lease for some a-hole to go rape it while you are at work because there is an opening into your lease from a canal.
I can relate to this and we aren't even in the marsh, just along a body of water and according to the WLF agents we deal with water only amplifies poaching and trespassing.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:26 am to sloopy
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Is this the majority of the cases or are people getting pissed off about people fishing on their lease?
I would say both. A fair amount of duck leases also offer good fishing in the off season and if fresh have frogging.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:09 am to bayoudude
Once you get out of good duck hunting, you don't see gates much. You don't see a lot in the salt water marsh around Terrebonne parish. You see it all over where it's fresh and there are more duck blinds.
Thing is, where would you fish if these canals had never been dug? I mean it's not like people didn't fish before the oilfield started digging them.
In regards to trespassing, I stay out of canals that say private canal. I will fish the marsh that is open. But most of the areas I fish mostly have signs along the bank so that you don't get out in the marsh. I never fish those ponds during duck season either since I know someone does pay to lease that.
Thing is, where would you fish if these canals had never been dug? I mean it's not like people didn't fish before the oilfield started digging them.
In regards to trespassing, I stay out of canals that say private canal. I will fish the marsh that is open. But most of the areas I fish mostly have signs along the bank so that you don't get out in the marsh. I never fish those ponds during duck season either since I know someone does pay to lease that.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 2/15/16 at 11:52 am to KG6
Has anyone heard anything lately?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 12:00 pm to sloopy
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Most of the gates deal with hunting leases. Nothing like spending several thousand dollars a year on a lease for some a-hole to go rape it while you are at work because there is an opening into your lease from a canal.
Is this the majority of the cases or are people getting pissed off about people fishing on their lease?
one large landowner that I know did it because of 3 bowfishing operations that kept going into their property and running ducks out and thinning out fish in their ponds. they asked the bowfishermen to stay out during duck season....asking didn't work
Posted on 2/15/16 at 12:00 pm to choupiquesushi
heck miami corp canals were gated in the early 80s
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:15 pm to choupiquesushi
Is this happening anywhere else in the state?
I've run all over Venice and Delacroix and pretty much can go where I want. There are a few canals in Delacroix but they are dammed off not gated.
This is getting sad quick.
I've run all over Venice and Delacroix and pretty much can go where I want. There are a few canals in Delacroix but they are dammed off not gated.
This is getting sad quick.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:20 pm to cajunboatman
From my understanding it is happening a lot ...
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:25 pm to Scrowe
Was watchin Swamp People tonight and this thread came to mind. Are the gator hunters only hunting on public land now? They mentioned Troy's sons going up into this canal that no one had hunted and I was halfway expecting to see a gate across it.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:41 pm to BFIV
Most gator hunters get there tags from property owners or lease holder with trapping rights that don't want to fool with it. More than likely they have permission to be there.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:04 am to MorningWood
Yep gotta have property to get tags. Continental Land and Fur has 120,000 acres in western Terrebonne Parish. I heard that Elizabeth on Swamp People was hunting some of their land last year. Pissed off a few duck lease holders as she didn't give a frick about their hunting. The way the leases work through Continental the trapper has just as much right to be out there as the hunters and it doesn't matter if their seasons overlap. My lease covers waterfowl and frogs only.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:20 am to bayoudude
I hate seeing people being disrespectful. I would pay a higher license fee if it would go to more game warden patrols. When I fish other states I get checked by wildlife agents about 10% of the time... In Louisiana, only a couple of times. The hole gated canal issue needs to be addressed and people need to be respectful
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:23 am to BFIV
No, they hunt both public and private canals
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:32 am to Wacker
quote:It's been addressed. Nothing more needs to be done.
The hole gated canal issue needs to be addressed and people need to be respectful
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:50 am to AlxTgr
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It's been addressed. Nothing more needs to be done.
Well, to some extent, it be addressed again in the near future.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:06 am to AlxTgr
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It's been addressed. Nothing more needs to be done.
Well, I guess that settles it...
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