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re: Fixed broadheads v mechanicals

Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

No offense to your son but that was not the Rage's fault.


It's not the Rage broadhead's fault that it didnt allegedly deploy? How would shot placement dictate whether it deployed properly or not. And so we dont get confused, Im not saying I dont like mechanicals or that I wouldnt use one (I shot a deer last year with a NAP Killzone and it was devastating and worked perfectly), and I firmly believe that shot placement is key above all things else. Id rather a double lung shot with a field point than a gut shot with any broadhead.

Posted by lsuchamps23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I have killed 8 animals in the last 2 years with Rage and every single one was a perfectly deployed boradhead with devastating results


same for me
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Also, while we're at it, if you really want to go there, it's impossible to compare the two on your grounds because it is impossible for a fixed to fail due to mechanical failure because.........there are no mechanical parts.
What?
quote:

That entire statement is contradictory.

No it's not.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

It's not the Rage broadhead's fault that it didnt allegedly deploy?
It did deploy.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:58 pm to
Orlly?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:59 pm to
Of course
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Muzzy and Rage


Sometimes you have to be honest with yourself and ask yourself, did the company spend more time researching and developing product innovation that's reliable and consistent or did they spend more time in marketing researching a fancy name. ?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
And just how could you possibly know that? He might have welded the damn thing shut.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

He might have welded the damn thing shut.

Stainless to aluminum?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:18 pm to




But all bullshite aside, it probably just didn't work in typical rage fashion. Fixed>mechanical
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

But all bullshite aside,
the guy made a bad shot, looked at the head, did not see it looking like it opened, concluded it didn't open.

The non-opening mechanical is black panther and sasquatch.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:33 pm to
The holes in the hide should be pretty easy to cipher
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:36 pm to
Yeah, if they could chase the deer down and catch him
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48927 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

How would shot placement dictate whether it deployed properly or not.
looking at the size of the hole it left in the deer.


Even an "undeployed" rage will kill a deer if you double lung or heart shot. And it won't be going far, nor will you bump it.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Even an "undeployed" rage will kill a deer if you double lung or heart shot. And it won't be going far, nor will you bump it.


Ok, I agree with you, and it being a Rage doesnt make that a fact. That is a fact with any broadhead, field point, bullet, etc. If you double lung something or heart shoot it, it is going to die. That doesnt answer the question. How would shot placement dictate whether or not a mechanical broadhead failed to deploy?

quote:

looking at the size of the hole it left in the deer.


This would tell you whether it did in fact deploy or not. It wouldnt tell you why it didnt.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:10 pm to
Back to the OP, how do we know it didn't deploy?

With the way the rage's are designed, I'm not sure how it cannot deploy somehow. Now the blades breaking or the arrow hitting something on flight and making it deploy early seems possible.

I'm just trying to learn, I personally know of 30+ deer killed with them by me and some friends and have never heard of anyone complain about deployment issues.

Bad shots are usually what cause people to lose deer.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

how do we know it didn't deploy?


Im curious about that too.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1830 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:21 pm to
I had one rage that didn't deploy, or i think it didn't deploy. It was a three blade with the old style o-rings and i believe it dry rotted or something sitting in my broadhead box. One blade came out and left a mark on the o-ring and the other two were still behind the o-ring. It sounded like I hit the deer with a baseball bat. The deer still died but I never shot a three blade at a deer again. I am very happy with two blades, and with the new collar on them I'm not sure how you would know if it didn't deploy unless the collar didn't break.
Posted by lsuchamps23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:24 pm to
i can't imagine a rage 2 blade not opening

mine opens everytime i take it out of the quiver
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:25 pm to
When I used Spitfires, they would be closed every time I recovered one. This is despite the fact that every one worked just fine through the deer. I eventually moved on because I found something I liked better and wasn't a huge fan of their retention system.
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