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Fish and deer herd management questions
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:01 am
Got a piece of property I'm fooling with, supposed stocked pond and nice wooded area with deer. Not fenced except for road frontage. Creek along rest of perimeter.
How do I determine overall health of pond and population of fish? Adding or subtracting species etc... They have caught some nice bass in it.
Same with the deer. How do I go about stand location, feed, food plots etc... I'm assuming I need some cameras and I know nothing about them either. What's good, what to avoid.
Also want to keep this particular piece basically for kids, both fishing and hunting. Any particulars needed for that? Types of stands feeders etc,,,
Any help is appreciated.
How do I determine overall health of pond and population of fish? Adding or subtracting species etc... They have caught some nice bass in it.
Same with the deer. How do I go about stand location, feed, food plots etc... I'm assuming I need some cameras and I know nothing about them either. What's good, what to avoid.
Also want to keep this particular piece basically for kids, both fishing and hunting. Any particulars needed for that? Types of stands feeders etc,,,
Any help is appreciated.
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:12 am to Martini
Depends on the size on the property for deer. If it is a large place your management, along with genetics will determine the health. When dealing with small property, your neighbor's management is also your management...
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:16 am to Martini
How many acres?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:20 am to MillerMan
for the fish, you can do a mark-recapture survey. Catch a fish, tag it or mark it in some form, then release it. Keep a detailed log of how many fish you catch that are tagged and which are not tagged.
Then you can use some simple statistical formulas to figure out how many fish you have.
Then you can use some simple statistical formulas to figure out how many fish you have.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:34 am to Martini
i can help with fish
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:02 am to Martini
As far as the hunting part goes, you are correct about the cameras, but before you put any of those out you will want to scout your land. Look for any signs of deer meaning old rubs, trails, beds, etc. Once you think you have an idea where deer, in particular bucks, might commonly be then getting a few cameras to see exactly what is hanging around is not a bad idea. When putting cameras out, the best thing IMO to do if you have no feeders is simply put a few piles of rice bran or corn out in front the cameras and leave them for a week or two.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:08 am to PhioftheTiger1915
There are two older stands on the property along with old feeders. Id say haven't been used in several years.
Pond is I would speculate at 5-6 acres. Holds water well and looks generally healthy.
Pond is I would speculate at 5-6 acres. Holds water well and looks generally healthy.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:12 am to Martini
I guess herd management is a bit of a stretch. Just wondering how to determine what to kill and what not to kill. No idea on the neighbors as I've yet to meet them.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:13 am to PhioftheTiger1915
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simply put a few piles of rice bran or corn out in front the cameras and leave them for a week or two
Good advice. You could dump a pack or two of Kool-Aid powder on top of the piles to help attract the deer too.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:17 am to Martini
Is this your property? Lease?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:26 am to Martini
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I guess herd management is a bit of a stretch.
As far as doe management and buck-to-doe ratios go, it usually falls on how many acres you are hunting, unless you are in an area with a universally low deer population.
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Just wondering how to determine what to kill and what not to kill. No idea on the neighbors as I've yet to meet them.
Depends a lot on where your land is located, and generally how big the bucks are in the area. Your neighbors can have an influence on this as well if they shoot non-mature bucks.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:27 am to REB BEER
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:01 pm to Martini
quote:Don't know if they still do it but LDWF came out and shocked our pond (10 acres) one time.
How do I determine overall health of pond and population of fish?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:02 pm to Martini
Pond is I would speculate at 5-6 acres. Holds water well and looks generally healthy. [/quote]
i can help with pond.. where is it?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:04 pm to Martini
lots of small bass lots of small bream - bad....
NO emergent or submerged vegetation bad....
happy balance good.....
water too clear - bad...
NO emergent or submerged vegetation bad....
happy balance good.....
water too clear - bad...
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:27 pm to Martini
Your best bet to learn as much info as you can on deer and wildlife habitat management is to join QDMA. Its only $30 and you will learn TONS of info about answering all of the questions you asked such as how to determine total deer population, adult sex ratios, fawn recruitment, harvest goals, etc... Check out www.qdma.com
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:30 pm to choupiquesushi
120 acres. Wilkinson County.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:36 pm to Martini
contact me back channel on pond
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:38 pm to Martini
If sushi is offering help take it... Though you might end up with a duck oasis...
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:48 pm to choupiquesushi
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This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 1:22 pm
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