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DSLR outdoor camera recommendations

Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:22 pm
I'm planning to buy a camera that can do the following:

Take a clear picture of a duck in flight

Take a quality photo of a deer standing 50-300 yards away

Something durable that I can have in the woods, stand, or blind.

Something that can also take a close up of dogwood trees while turkey hunting

Of course I will want first class tail gate shots of all the mallards piled up.

Help me out OB

TIA
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:28 pm to
You are going to have to open the pocket book for what you want. I was getting ready to crash, I will take a look at this thread tomorrow.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4909 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:14 am to
A Canon Rebel T3i would be a good place to start. It's pretty versatile and there are good deals on them all over right now. You can get a used one for ~$450.

My buddy uses a canon eos 5d for his outdoor multimedia company. He takes some amazing photos and videos with that thing, but I'm not sure you want to know the price on that bad boy.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 12:16 am
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:17 am to
I've been scanning the web and I keep coming back to Nikon D5200. I just don't want to spend money on something that doesn't do what I want.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259590 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:54 am to
Just got a new camera. Pentax K-3. It's not an entry level DSLR so it doesn't have "scene" modes but its weather sealed, protected against the cold and takes amazing photos even in low light. Ricoh recently bought Pentax and is putting a lot of money into the glass. K-3 may be the best cropped sensor camera you can buy, and it can compete with some of the full frame sensors. LINK

The K-50 is also weathersealed from Pentax, and you can get it for under $500.


I'm still figuring my K-3 out, but it shot some very good photos in low light, even with some motion involved.






I was really pleased with the images I got today considering the lighting conditions, cold and at times...heavy snowfall. My old camera would not be able to be used in those conditions.

Shot some in better light last week after I first got it.




It has an in body stabilizer so you can take fairly sharp images without a tripod. I'll be trying it out at night when this storm is over.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 1:02 am
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:47 am to
yeah right!
4 told us what you really want that camera for, you creeper...


I have a kodak 110 and a canon sureshot, , if you want to borrow one of them?
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:55 am to
You're going to have to give us your budget.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:57 am to
From 300 yards out? You gonna need a small telescope for that lol
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
686 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:14 am to
It's not the camera that you're going to spend the coin on, it's the lens. For shots of ducks in flight early in the morning....you will need a $1,000+ lens.
Buy used or refurbished from Adorama.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8960 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:32 am to
I have been using a Nikon D750 and its an amazing albeit expensive camera. Lenses are not inexpensive but aftermarket lenses can be found for $200-300 for something with a very high power. I don't know that you really need 24 megapixels but the images are pretty exceptional.

Before that we had the D50 and D40. All are great cameras and you can occasionally find fully warranted refurbs.

Lately, I'm actually using my iPhone for most of my pics. The megapixels aren't great but for close work they are suitable and convenient. There are lots of free apps that you can use now for touchup work.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 7:38 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:43 am to
Cameras are about managing light. You need to understand what you are trying to do before you can get into what you need to buy. Most cameras can take photos of non moving objects with full sunlight at close ranges. When you add distance, low light and moving subjects many of the cameras and lenses can not produce good pictures. Why is that, well you need to let more light into the camera, but you can't do it by slowing the shutter speed because the subject is moving so you need to open the inside of the lens larger to capture more light.


There are 3 ways to get light and limit light into a camera to get a good picture. They do not work independently but instead like the legs on a tripod. The shutter speed can be speed up or slowed down to let in more light. This can work great for non moving subjects, not so much for moving ones. The aperture is how large the lens opens to let light into the camera and then there is the sensitivity of the light sensors in the camera or the ISO.

Let us look at the lenses and why are some so expensive. In addition to quality glass being clearer and sharper the aperture or f number is very important. This setting can be done manually or auto by the camera.

The more light that can enter the camera the faster the shutter can operate.





Posted by TheGreat318
West of Bossier
Member since Feb 2012
1256 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:17 am to
Listen to wick on this. I have a Nikon 3200 and its probably too much camera for me. I had mallards landing in the dekes yesterday and could not get a pic that wasn't blurry. I need to take a class or something.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8960 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I have a Nikon 3200 and its probably too much camera for me.


I feel the same way with my camera. Like having a Ferrari and not knowing how to get out of first gear sometime.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:39 am to
For anyone with a DSLR highly setting the camera to shoot simultaneously in jpeg and RAW and buying Lightroom from Adobe. This program is very easy to use and allows you to edit photos. Let me provide a few examples..

The fist photo was taken on a cloudy afternoon at the house playing with my new lens. The boat house is about 80 yards away.



This is what a minute in Lightroom got me...


This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:46 am to
Canon EOS, digital will do all your asking.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21397 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:59 am to
You're gonna need to spend some cash on quality lenses. That long clear shot of a buck at 300yds is going to take a big telephoto to get clarity.

Ducks in flight are a lot more difficult than you think. Getting good clear shots at close up duck, like those working near your blind are extremely frustrating. You need a fast lens with a big aperture which equals more money. A lot of the professional shots you see like this are taken with a long telephoto at a larger distance.

[Note: There is a difference between a telephoto and a zoom lens, and you pay for it.]

If you're serious about learning to shoot the kind of things you described, you'd be best off with a high end consumer camera (Canon T5 or Nikon D5300 or better or the equivalent from Pentax/Minolta) with a couple of decent zoom lenses like a 70-300mm and maybe a 24-85mm.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:17 am to
My parents just bought a Canon T5i. Normally my dad can't take pictures with a common point and shoot digital camera but that thing makes anyone look like a pro.
Posted by TheGreat318
West of Bossier
Member since Feb 2012
1256 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

This is what a minute in Lightroom got me...


A MINUTE IN LIGHTROOM GOT YOU 8 MALLARDS!?!?

Thats it! I'm getting rid of the mojo!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259590 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:30 am to
quote:



I feel the same way with my camera. Like having a Ferrari and not knowing how to get out of first gear sometime.


First camera was a Pentax K-x and it had dozens of modes and a setting for almost every kind of shooting environment. After you learn a bit about exposure, you'll never need them again. The new camera is more complex but doesn't have any shooting modes (landscape, micro, sunset, etc.) It does have a default "auto" setting but everything else is manual or the standard PASM settings. It also has a few settings for customization.

I've found Lightroom to be a savior if I mess up the exposure.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:36 am to
This was taken at almost 300 yards...


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