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Camera gurus, I need info please

Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by cubsfinger
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:57 am
My wife has the Cannon EOS rebel T3i. We are headed to the see the sequoia trees at the end of May and I want her to have the proper lens for quality shots. Right now the only lens she has is a 50mm 1:1.8 stm. This is jibberish to me and I would like some input as to what lens to get her.

Also how many batteries should we bring for the trip? I know her batteries don't last long. We will have access to an inverter to charge them in the truck. We will be primitive camping on this trip so that will be the only option for charging. Thank you!!
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:59 am to
if it were me, I'd get a better 50, unless you are needing some sort of zoom.


Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:59 am to
May have better luck on tech board man
Posted by cubsfinger
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:08 am to
Thanks. I was uncertain if I was in the correct board
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:08 am to
One way to go would be a wide angle zoom, like a 10-22mm if getting shots of a the trees is a goal. However, until you get really wide, you likely still won't capture the entire tree.

The other way to go would be a normal zoom lens. Maybe in the range of 24-105mm? Does she do any photography on a regular basis? Is she interested in the hobby? Some of those lenses can be expensive but if it s something she enjoys, it will open up more opportunities to her.
Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:09 am to
I would go with a wide angle myself. Something like the Temron 10-24 of Canon 10-22 or 10-18.
Posted by cubsfinger
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:09 am to
She is very interested in the hobby but is a newbie. Thank you for the info
Posted by cubsfinger
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

i would go with a wide angle myself. Something like the Temron 10-24 of Canon 10-22 or 10-18


Is the Temron universal to the cannon? How would I go about picking one over another on the ones you suggested? I'm clueless on this topic
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:

I would go with a wide angle myself. Something like the Temron 10-24 of Canon 10-22 or 10-18.


I would love to have a nice wide zoom myself, however, if she is just getting started, a longer zoom may be more useful to her outside of this trip. Just my opinion.
Posted by SCwTiger
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:31 am to
Not a guru, but I bought a Canon T1I off Ebay with standard 18-55mm and 75-300mm lenses.

Took these pics with the 55:



The 300:

These were from about 20-40 yards away.
Good enough for what I got it for. I've only got one battery and haven't run it out yet in a day (haven't taken over 80 pics in one day, though). As long as you charge at night, it should be fine.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:31 am to
That model is a crop sensor so the canon 10-22 would be best for landscapes.

I wouldn't spend too much on high quality lenses until you upgrade the camera body itself

Don't jump into the L-series in other words

Posted by Teague
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:45 am to
quote:

That model is a crop sensor so the canon 10-22 would be best for landscapes. I wouldn't spend too much on high quality lenses until you upgrade the camera body itself Don't jump into the L-series in other words


I personally think that is backwards advice. Always buy good lenses, and you can still use them when you upgrade camera bodies. Lenses are much more important to good photography than the camera body. If you buy a poor, or mediocre lens, that's all it's going to be on any camera body. But, with ANY DSLR and a good lens, you can produce great photos.

Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

That model is a crop sensor so the canon 10-22 would be best for landscapes.

I wouldn't spend too much on high quality lenses until you upgrade the camera body itself

Don't jump into the L-series in other words



I see the point regarding an absolute hobbyist who never intends to upgrade/take photography seriously, but what hurts more? Buying cheaper glass to save now that's incompatible with any full frame you buy later? Or going ahead and eating the cost and buying nice glass now that will benefit both your crop sensor and any full frame you buy later.

If you're never going to upgrade to full frame or higher quality crop sensor, there are better options than going out and buying Canon L.

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if it were me, I'd get a better 50, unless you are needing some sort of zoom.


I'd advise against this for the sole reason that the only lens she currently has is a prime. The only reason she should upgrade that 50mm is if she's spending in excess of $1000 on the 50L or something, but still, someone new to photography going on a trip with nothing but a 50mm is a recipe for frustration and a quick turnaround to disinterest in photography.

quote:

My wife has the Cannon EOS rebel T3i. We are headed to the see the sequoia trees at the end of May and I want her to have the proper lens for quality shots. Right now the only lens she has is a 50mm 1:1.8 stm. This is jibberish to me and I would like some input as to what lens to get her.

Also how many batteries should we bring for the trip? I know her batteries don't last long. We will have access to an inverter to charge them in the truck. We will be primitive camping on this trip so that will be the only option for charging. Thank you!!


The T3i is a highly capable camera body. The most important question is really how much are you willing to spend? The Canon 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 is the best kit lens any manufacturer offers IMO, and it can be had used on B&H right now for $280. I(LINK ).

She already has a fast lens, so she may not care that it's relatively slow. It also has image stabilization which makes up for its lack of wide aperture to an extent. That lens has the capability to take some great photos though, and gives her 5x more options than anything suggested in this thread.

The Tokina 11-20mm f/2.8 is also an incredible wide angle for crop sensors, but is nowhere near as versatile as an 18-135mm.

Considering that she only has one lens right now, and that it's a prime, I would go the more versatile route and get the 18-135mm. It will give her the ability take a significantly wider variety of photos effectively, whereas she'll be hamstrung with a wide angle for wildlife/bird photography, or anything else at longer focal lengths.

Re: batteries. Canon bodies are actually pretty good on batteries, and access to an inverter is nice. Still, I wouldn't go on a trip like that without at least 4 batteries. If you want, buy her these. Great quality and super cheap: LINK
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:22 am to
Get something like an 18-140mm zoom.
Posted by ScottyB
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:11 pm to
The efs 10-18mm is really good if you are looking for wide angle for a crop sensor camera such as the t3i
Posted by BiggerBear
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:31 pm to
The answer to your question depends solely on how much you want to spend. When you are traveling, the most useful focal lengths are likely to be in the wide angle category (you can get a lot in the frame) and from around 24mm to 35mm. For wildlife, the telephoto range is pretty handy (small field of view lets you fill the picture with distant or small things), for birds, get as long of a focal length as you can (higher numbers between 300 and 600).

A zoom lens is a lens that changes focal lengths and it is possible to get a lens that covers the wide and telephoto ranges and everything in between. There is a quality trade-off, but probably nothing that you will notice unless you intend to make large prints.

So here's two recommendations based on price, focal length range and quality.

First is:

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM

This is the higher quality lens, with good wide angle, and a little telephoto, but probably not enough for distant or small animals or outdoor sports. This is also the more expensive lens at about $500.

Second is:

Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM

This isn't quite as good for low light (shouldn't matter), but zooms to a much longer focal length for animals and daylight sports. It is also less expensive at around $350. Don't look for much cheaper in a zoom lens.

Incidentally, the link is to B&H which is one of the most reputable retailers on the internet in any category.

These are decent lenses. Not top of the line. They also have macro capability if you are interested in contributing to the herpetology thread. If money is no object, buy a Canon EF 24-105L IS USM and pay around $1,100 and you will have the perfect travel lens.

If your wife doesn't mind swapping lenses, then just get a Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 USM lens and it will be better and possibly cheaper than any of the above for Sequoias and landscaps, but of only limited usefulness for anything else.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:48 pm to
I'd look for a 50-55mm f/1.8

Then a 18-135mm.
Posted by BiggerBear
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

'd look for a 50-55mm f/1.8


He already has one.
Posted by bbvdd
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

He already has one.


I guess it wouldn't help too much then.

I have a 300mm f/2.8 and it's amazing.
Posted by UAH_Tiger2
Pacific Northwest
Member since Mar 2016
391 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:55 am to
I will add this option. Look at renting a couple of pieces of glass from lensrentals.com for your trip. The 18-135mm mentioned is a good choice along with the 10-18mm. Give them a call and they will hook you up.
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