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Calling OB Electricians-PROBLEM SOLVED.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:09 am
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:09 am
Recently bought an older house and decided to move some fans/lights around. Learned the hard way that whoever installed the breaker box didn't label it properly and shocked the shite out of myself trying to put in a new light where the fan was. Now several light fixtures and wall outlets won't work. I've checked the breaker box and nothing was tripped, I even reset them. Not really sure where to go from here other than call an electrician out.
In Shreveport so if any of you OB Baws in the area want to help me out that'd be awesome
EDIT: Thanks for all the responses and help. Thought I'd update the thread once we figured out the problem.
Handyman and I fumbled around for a while and came to the same conclusion that either there was another GFCI outlet or another breaker box/fuse panel in the house that we couldn't find. We were thinking out loud and sure enough about that time my clueless wife walks by and says nonchalantly "oh yeah, there's a little panel hidden inside one of the spare closets" MOTHER frickER.
So just like Clyde said about his home in Shreveport, there was a fuse box hidden in a closet in the spare bedroom that we never saw. Checked the fuses, found the burnt one, and replaced for $2.00. Glad I didn't have to bring out an electrician and the handyman didn't charge me.
In Shreveport so if any of you OB Baws in the area want to help me out that'd be awesome
EDIT: Thanks for all the responses and help. Thought I'd update the thread once we figured out the problem.
Handyman and I fumbled around for a while and came to the same conclusion that either there was another GFCI outlet or another breaker box/fuse panel in the house that we couldn't find. We were thinking out loud and sure enough about that time my clueless wife walks by and says nonchalantly "oh yeah, there's a little panel hidden inside one of the spare closets" MOTHER frickER.
So just like Clyde said about his home in Shreveport, there was a fuse box hidden in a closet in the spare bedroom that we never saw. Checked the fuses, found the burnt one, and replaced for $2.00. Glad I didn't have to bring out an electrician and the handyman didn't charge me.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:11 am to tiger rag 93
Is there a GCFI on the circuit that may be tripped somewhere?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:13 am to WPBTiger
I searched like hell for the GCFI outlets and reset the ones I found. Still nothing.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:15 am to tiger rag 93
How many black and white wires do you have in the ceiling box?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:17 am to tiger rag 93
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I searched like hell for the GCFI outlets and reset the ones I found. Still nothing.
I am not saying you missed it, but I had something similar happen and I missed one. It drove my crazy until I found it. FWIW, I have a few in my garage that are on different circuits.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:17 am to tiger rag 93
Could have a gfci wired funky through the garage or attic. I'd make damn sure I found every gfci outlet before paying an electrician to make a house call for a tripped gfci.
I had one tripped outside on my porch that turned all the kitchen outlets out on my old house. That's what you get when weekend worriers think they can do it themselves to save a couple bucks.
I had one tripped outside on my porch that turned all the kitchen outlets out on my old house. That's what you get when weekend worriers think they can do it themselves to save a couple bucks.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:20 am to QuietTiger
There's a green ground wire, black-hot, white, neutral, and red.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:23 am to tiger rag 93
Did you mess with the switch, are there 2 switches?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:24 am to QuietTiger
Didn't mess with any switches, and it seems each light out has its own separate switch.
Think I might have found the culprit. GFCI outlet not working and can't get it to reset.
Think I might have found the culprit. GFCI outlet not working and can't get it to reset.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 7:31 am
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:30 am to tiger rag 93
Sounds like you either tripped a GFI somewhere, or maybe a breaker looks reset but isn't. Do you have a panel inside and out?
I have to hit the door, will check this later, sorry.
One more thing, are the wires stuck in the back of the receptacles or hooked?
I have to hit the door, will check this later, sorry.
One more thing, are the wires stuck in the back of the receptacles or hooked?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:39 am to tiger rag 93
That GFI not resetting should be the problem. Replace it, make sure you put the feed on the screws marked "line". The down current side on the "load" screws. Black wires on gold screws, white on silver screws.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 7:47 am
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:08 am to tiger rag 93
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whoever installed the breaker box didn't label it properly
This isn't exclusive to older houses. Some electricians are morons when it comes to labeling boxes.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:24 am to tiger rag 93
Breakers need to be turned completely off and then back on. You can't go from the trip position to the on position they don't work like that.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:32 am to papasmurf1269
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Breakers need to be turned completely off and then back on
That's what I did. Several times. No dice.
My dad and I fooled around with it more this morning and couldn't find the source of the issue. I even got in the attic looking for a rogue GFCI outlet. One of my mom's work friends is married to a handyman. Have him coming out this afternoon to take a look. At this point I'm not very optimistic.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:51 am to Wtodd
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This isn't exclusive to older houses. Some electricians are morons when it comes to labeling boxes.
True. Best work I ever had done on my old place was getting an electrician to come put new wiring in a remodeled couple of rooms. We moved the laundry to the main level out of the basement, so it required 220 and I didn't want to mess with that. I could have easily ran the wires/boxes/switches but also didn't want to mess with hooking new into the panel. While he was there, and without me asking, he went through the whole house and relabeled my entire panel for me.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:47 pm to tiger rag 93
damn wish ya were closer, I'm off today and could go take a look for ya but anyway
was everything working before you moved around fixtures?
also did you replace the GFCI that was not resetting?
throughout my hrs i've learned that many times its an outlet/breaker that the issue, but always hard to say without seeing anything
speaking of breakers did any of them seems to have a "soft throw" almost like a loose or spongy feel?
it could be that the breaker is in the "on" position but not sending voltage down the line
was everything working before you moved around fixtures?
also did you replace the GFCI that was not resetting?
throughout my hrs i've learned that many times its an outlet/breaker that the issue, but always hard to say without seeing anything
speaking of breakers did any of them seems to have a "soft throw" almost like a loose or spongy feel?
it could be that the breaker is in the "on" position but not sending voltage down the line
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:58 pm to tiger rag 93
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:03 pm to No8Easy2
Got a question for you. I think my 220 breaker arched. Replaced it and still don't have power when I check the terminals. All other breakers on the panel are functional. Could I have fried the fingers to this breaker?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:09 pm to tigerfootball10
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tigerfootball10
Take the leads off, reset and test from each terminal to ground, not across the two.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:09 pm to tiger rag 93
I'm in Shreveport, and I have 2 breaker boxes. One with what I call traditional breakers that flip back and fourth with a main at the top, and then I have an older one with round glass screw in fuses.
It took me a couple of days to discover the older box the first time something like this happened to me. Sure enough, burnt fuse... not a thrown breaker.
It took me a couple of days to discover the older box the first time something like this happened to me. Sure enough, burnt fuse... not a thrown breaker.
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