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re: Bump/Slide stocks are flying off the shelves

Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Propagandalf
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:40 pm to
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You're reaching a little far man. You are basically saying that if you give up bump stocks, the government will be coming for your tennis shoes next.


That's not what I said. What I said was that you should care about your rights and not be willing to forfeit or give concessions on any of them or parts of them that you don't care about. If all you do is compromise eventually you will have compromised your entire right away.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:55 pm to
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I said that I don't care if they get banned, and probably > 100 million people don't either, so it isn't as big of an issue as you make it out to be. They just don't affect people, so people don't care.

100 million people probably don't care about taxes rising either. Doesn't mean it doesn't harm you.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:01 pm to
i dont think you understand the definition of compromise...in political terms it's common meaning is "give & take".

for example...
1) accept a ban on or heavily regulated bump-fire stocks
2) in return, pass national right-to-carry reciprocity

nobody cared about bump fire stocks before monday. like i said before, i was amazed that they are legal, but certainly they were not a topic of conversation and i venture that not 5 in 100 americans even knew what they were. this is an opportunity to get something in return, ie "compromise"
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2865 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:15 pm to
They want a compromise then here is one.....
Pass the noise reduction act (suppresors) and you can take the bump fire stocks in return.

THATS a compromise I can get behind
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

i dont think you understand the definition of compromise...in political terms it's common meaning is "give & take".

for example...
1) accept a ban on or heavily regulated bump-fire stocks
2) in return, pass national right-to-carry reciprocity


I dont think you understand how the world works outside of a dictionary. Are those the terms? They give us back something they took and take something else? By my count were still down one in that arrangement. How does that play out at the state level? What did Californians get in return for the assault weapon ban, what did other localities get in return for magazine bans, what did we get in return for the Clinton ban, the GCA, the NFA?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:29 pm to
dems draft a bill banning slide fire
GOP attaches a right to carry amendment
the bill is agreed upon in conference

you really say no?
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:43 pm to
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dems draft a bill banning slide fire
GOP attaches a right to carry amendment
the bill is agreed upon in conference

Anyone who thinks this will happen ignores everything that has ever happened with gun control. We already have a right to carry btw, it's called the 2A. Fight for it. Don't fight for new laws. Fight for the existing provisions of the constitution that have been trampled on.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:48 pm to
We Already should be able to universally carry. It's called the second amendment.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:59 pm to
Did you fight tooth and nail for Jarts? I really liked them. Now, all they have is these stupid Nerf ones that aren't even dangerous.

Did you vehemently oppose the new bullshite gas cans? Everyone hates those.

Like I said earlier, I am not a politician, but this seems like a tactic that the NRA will use to get some concessions. They can stick something on there because, hey, who is gonna be the a-hole to go against a bill that would ban what happened? Or maybe they have something else in the works?

Washington is a cesspool. We all know that. They do shady shite 100x a day.

It isn't an issue for me, so yes, I see it as a compromise on something I'm willing to let go. I believe that the NRA gave up so easily because they have something in the works
quote:

We Already should be able to universally carry
I thought this said university. You can bring your shite to school, as long as it stays in your vehicle
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:21 pm to
How could I forget the 54th Amendment..The right to use gas cans of choice shall not be infringed.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:28 pm to
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dems draft a bill banning slide fire
GOP attaches a right to carry amendment
the bill is agreed upon in conference

you really say no?


It seems like individual states would be able to just circumve t this with their own ban. Not to mention that bill would likely be littered with bullshite or left very open to interpretation later.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:31 pm to
Don't lie man, you wish you would've fought that. We all do
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:35 pm to
yeah you right
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89474 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

who is gonna be the a-hole to go against a bill that would ban what happened?


How the frick can you say that? He used a crank trigger or whatever. Big deal. He still had a dozen guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. That dude planned and prepared for this for years.

If he hadn't found crank trigger, he'd have figured out another way. He was a pilot. He had shite tons of money - he likely would acquired whatever. If he chosen to go forward with his plan without such a device, the body count could have been a couple fewer, the same, or more.

Mateen killed 49 with a Sig MCX and a Glock 17 (Under $2000 for guns, accessories and ammo) - no bloody bump fire/slide fire/crank trigger nonsense at all. You think a millionaire can't at least match that?

We know where this ends - banning all semis (and heavily restricting everything else).
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:41 pm to
Get a VP Racing fuel jug and a hose. No more stupid EPA bullshite push-pull twist whatever spill enhancer stuff to deal with
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:54 pm to
The fact that he was very wealthy is the most curious part of it for me.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89474 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:02 pm to
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The fact that he was very wealthy is the most curious part of it for me.


It is intriguing. There are so many unanswered questions.

And the tidbit about his father being on the 10 Most Wanted List from '69 to '77 - and his father was apparently obsessed with Bingo (whereas this piece of garbage had a thing for video poker.)
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:39 am to
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Okay, YOU tell me why you NEED a suppressor.

it's none of your GOT DANG BIDNESS as to why i NEED a suppressor.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15497 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:28 am to
It's funny all this money people just spent is all going to be banned soon. Hope you guys can get a refund.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:35 am to
They won't come take shite from people. They would just not allow the manufacture or sale of them anymore
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