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Braided line casting length.

Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:51 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:51 am
I tried a spool of the high dollar spider wire invisa-braid and it has terrible casting characteristics, very sticky and probably 30-50% shorter than my fluoro or mono reels. I can normally throw a large rattletrap or crankbait 70 yards on a good day. any better braid options, I want to keep one reel with braid for throwing and ripping lipless crank baits in the pads.
Posted by computerguy
Orlando
Member since Oct 2007
1236 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:57 am to
I have found power pro super slick to offer better casting distance

However I have also had issues with hooks getting caught inside the line similar to the way it catches in rope

Like many others I throw regular power pro but drop to 10# for distance it is plenty strong for bass
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17311 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:59 am to
Sounds like you pulled a bad batch or brand, or your reel/rod may not be set up for braid. Certain rods throw certain lines better. I'm not as big a fan as most of braid, but even I'll admit it normally casts much better than fluoro.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:00 am to
One characteristic I see is that with mono or fluoro you can have a little controlled overrun in the middle of a long cast before reapplying thumb pressure, braid instantly halts a cast with any overrun.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:01 am to
quote:

I'm not as big a fan as most of braid, but even I'll admit it normally casts much better than fluoro.


I don't see how this is remotely possible, fluoro will throw forever on my bigger Shimanos. Maybe it's just a shitty brand, it costs enough lol.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 8:03 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17311 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:04 am to
Then I wouldn't fix it if it ain't broke. The usual knock on flouro is the memory reduces casting distance, but this may just be an issue on smaller spool compact reels.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:05 am to
I would like one setup with the braid though, maybe I need to try another brand-batch
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17311 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:06 am to
What size are you using?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:14 am to
40# 10 diameter
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17311 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:27 am to
Maybe downsize a little if max casting distance is your goal, 40lb isn't quite heavy enough to get into the thick stuff and is a little too heavy to be on a rocket launcher, but first I would try the reel on a different rod and see if it improves. I'm by no means an expert on braid, I only use it for punching and frogging so someone else may have a little better insight.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12116 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 9:58 am to
I throw 50 lb braid (powerpro) and I can cast it as far as 30 lb braid.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29912 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

normally casts much better than fluoro.



This is true for me, as well, better than flouro or mono. Normally, the issue with braid is the reel. The older reel spooling patterns created issues for braid. Contrary to what some think, braid is much more "slippery" than mono or flouro. Because of that, if the line is spooled on by the reel at too narrow an angle the it can actually slips between the lines on the lower wrap causing the line to have to pull out and slowing the lure down thereby decreasing the cast length.
Posted by HouseofWaffles
Member since Nov 2014
4651 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:07 am to
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Spiderwire


Found your problem.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29912 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Found your problem.



Well, not my problem. But I always found Spiderwire to be a good product, just seriously overpriced.
Posted by HouseofWaffles
Member since Nov 2014
4651 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:16 am to
Fair enough. Just clicked and replied, was meant for the OP.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29912 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:02 am to
IMHO if you can cast braid further than mono or fluoro then you aren't casting very far to begin with, I throw all my reels with both spool settings set at the minimum possible.
Posted by farad
non-entity of St George
Member since Dec 2013
9610 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:27 am to
try throwing it with a fluouro leader and see if that doesn't help...

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17311 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 12:03 pm to
quote:


IMHO if you can cast braid further than mono or fluoro then you aren't casting very far to begin with, I throw all my reels with both spool settings set at the minimum possible.


You're the first person I've ever heard say fluoro throws better than braid, but all my distance rods have mono on them. Every line is a compromise, and I don't know if you're gonna find a braid that lets you set both drags to nothing without getting some backlash on long casts. It's just too soft on the spool, as someone else mentioned having a little bit of dig in especially when cranking is inevitable.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29912 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

IMHO if you can cast braid further than mono or fluoro then you aren't casting very far to begin with,


There are to many variables to really make that as a blanket statement. I was and am never going to be the best distance caster out there but have always gotten comparable distance while casting compared to most of the people I fish around. One of the first rules of thumb about casting is to decrease the diameter of the line in order to increase your distance. So logic would dictate that reducing your diameter by more than half would give you good return on distance, even if you assume the material may have an adverse effect.

That's been my experience. It is also a fact that your casting style may impact which line suits an individual better. And, as with almost all things fishing related, you confidence in what you're using probably impacts your outcome.

Whatever the case is, get out there and enjoy the fishing.
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