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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:34 pm
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:34 pm
Alright guys, So I had the chance to shoot an accuracy International today in .308, and I'm hooked. Seeing as I can't afford one, I need the Next best option. From what I understand, the Ruger precision is about as good as it gets when it comes to value for factory precision rifles. The question is, what does the OB recommend?

Is there a cheaper rifle, that I can put a new stock on that will still shoot as well as the precision?

If so, what rifle, and what chassis do suggest/like for that rifle?

Have any of yall shot the ruger? opinions?

thanks

Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:38 pm to
Tikka T3X CTR in a Chassis or aftermarket stock will serve you well. Hell, even the normal stock works just fine. If it were my money, I would be waiting for that Tikka T3X Tac A1 though.
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:46 pm to
thanks for the reply's guys. I guess I should clarify I would like to keep the price below 1300 or so, or about the price the ruger's are going for.

Chris, can yall get me a precision? Not finding very many online. also, if you can, could you give me a price?

also, just saw the savage model 10 BA stealth, any thoughts on that rifle?
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:55 pm to
You should have posted last week. I could have gotten you a really great deal on one
Posted by Section225
Member since Jun 2011
3692 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:42 pm to
Savage 11 Scout Rifle
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:51 pm to
Damn, how so?
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:55 pm to
Police testing trade ins for sale.
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
795 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:58 pm to
If you have a decent rifle now use it. If not, purchase a quality base model rifle from one of the quality manufactures. Send it to hill country rifles and have them perform their accurize service.

quote:

How We Do It Inspect chamber and barrel with our Hawkeye Bore Scope Inspect chamber for proper head space with go and no-go gauges Ensure even locking lug contact as head space allows Recrown barrel to ensure a perfectly concentric crown Aluminum Pillar and Glass Bed receiver and floor plate Free-float barrel Clean, inspect and tune your trigger Check base for level and lap scope rings for a perfect fit Shoot your rifle for groups, sight in, and give you the targets accurize target before & after > Work Order Form


These guys know about accurate rifles.



Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:07 pm to
That will be over his budget and groups like that are easy to attain with great consistency on a Tikka or RPR with good optics and ammo.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:59 pm to
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That will be over his budget and groups like that are easy to attain with great consistency on a Tikka or RPR with good optics and ammo.




At the end of the day, it's not the guitar, it's the player. That's true for shooting. Yes, some guns/cartridges have inherent limitations, but most shooters would be better served with more trigger time, than ever more expensive guns and optics.

Just my $0.02 and I'm probably wrong as usual.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 11:00 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:59 pm to
Boatless,
Curious as to what trait(s) about the Accuracy International gun "hooked" you? What will you be using the gun for? What caliber are you looking for?
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

At the end of the day, it's not the guitar, it's the player. That's true for shooting. Yes, some guns/cartridges have inherent limitations, but most shooters would be better served with more trigger time, than ever more expensive guns and optics.

But like a guitar, better and more expensive ones force you to put more time into them. Everyone should start on a cheap guitar (gun) like a Squier (Savage Axis) learn how to play (shoot), and then move up to a PRS Custom 24 (GA Precision) and keep on practicing. When you spend more, you will also want to play more and feel the need to not let the money go to waste.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Curious as to what trait(s) about the Accuracy International gun "hooked" you?


You didn't specifically ask me, but they are fine, fine tactical rifles. Everything about them is well thought out. Of course all that comes at a premium.

Personally I would probably go with a custom option (e.g. surgeonrifles.com, or any of a half dozen equivalent custom gun makers), because at those price points, I know what I want. If I didn't know what I wanted, it would be hard to beat AI in that tactical, precision, "battle" rifle category.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:11 pm to
In my limited experience, Savage is the best value on the market for long range rifles.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4643 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

How We Do It Inspect chamber and barrel with our Hawkeye Bore Scope Inspect chamber for proper head space with go and no-go gauges Ensure even locking lug contact as head space allows Recrown barrel to ensure a perfectly concentric crown Aluminum Pillar and Glass Bed receiver and floor plate Free-float barrel Clean, inspect and tune your trigger Check base for level and lap scope rings for a perfect fit Shoot your rifle for groups, sight in, and give you the targets accurize target before & after > Work Order Form


Are they saying they do all of those things to a rifle, or is that the list of services they offer? Because there's no point in bedding a rifle with a free floating barrel.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

(GA Precision)


You made me go to their website. Holy shite that GAP-10 is a sexy AR10/LR308 model. Not too far out of the range of reasonable price, either.

Badass

Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:24 pm to
tykempster
This dude was a test shooter for them and employee. Here is the GAP10 in action.
Also, Baton Rouge SWAT uses one.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 11:27 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:01 am to
quote:

They are fine, fine tactical rifles. Everything about them is well thought out. Of course all that comes at a premium.

Thx. I went to their website and now I have a better understanding for their guns.....For us old timers who grew up on a Rem M700 or Win M70 bolt action rifle using a 4X scope and wooden stock, the AI gun looks like one of those "new fangled" very accurate, bolt action rifles fed by an external mag (don't say "clip"!!) sitting in a funny looking AR-15 type stock w/ multiple attachment points for accessories and an adjustable LOP/comb. How's that description? How much do they cost?
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:14 am to
quote:

In my limited experience, Savage is the best value on the market for long range rifles.

Once again I find myself agreeing w/ Downshift. It'd be hard to find a factory rifle that's routinely more accurate than a Savage. If you can live w/o he tactical stock, I'd open up the nominations to include the Savage Long Range Varmint and Long Range Target, depending on the desired caliber.
Savage Varmint Rifles
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:37 am to
quote:

At the end of the day, it's not the guitar, it's the player. That's true for shooting. Yes, some guns/cartridges have inherent limitations, but most shooters would be better served with more trigger time, than ever more expensive guns and optics. Just my $0.02 and I'm probably wrong as usual.


I agree 100%, besides setting the load to that rifle. I worked up a hand load for a cheap Salvage 270 for my son. I would put it to any rifle out to 500 yards. I did have the trigger reworked along glass bedding the barrel. But still, for the 4 bills in it, it's a shooting rifle. Of course due to how thin the barrel is, it drops out after around 15 shots unless you let the barrel to cool. Been thinking of swapping out barrels to fix that.

One doesn't need to drop 2+ grand in a bolt action rifle to make it tact nails at 500 yards. 9 out of 10 times it is the shooter if the rifle is set up to the shooter.
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