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Bison hunting, I can't even imagine how many there once were, but this pic helps
Posted on 6/29/13 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 1:59 pm to wickowick
Impressive and sad all at once
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:00 pm to tigerinthebueche
Yes it is...
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:01 pm to tigerinthebueche
They were really dumb animals. Hunters would shoot one and the others immediately next to them wouldn't even move.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:06 pm to DrTyger
Oh I'm sure they're dumb as a bag of hammers, but knowing how they were decimated still makes it sad. I don't blame the hunters, but wish the sense of conservation would have been stronger in those days
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:07 pm to wickowick
It wasn't hunting, it was extermination, and it was a deliberate, brutally effective military strategy to deprive the Plains Indians of their main food source.
They knew what they were doing, and they were doing it on purpose.
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I don't blame the hunters, but wish the sense of conservation would have been stronger in those days
They knew what they were doing, and they were doing it on purpose.
This post was edited on 6/29/13 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:14 pm to Jim Rockford
have they tried to reintroduce them?
isnt most of their grazing land now farm land? their habit would have been destroyed even if they weren't callously decimated. can the US handle a huge population of migratory grazing animals like that today?
isnt most of their grazing land now farm land? their habit would have been destroyed even if they weren't callously decimated. can the US handle a huge population of migratory grazing animals like that today?
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:15 pm to Jim Rockford
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It wasn't hunting, it was extermination, and it was a deliberate, brutally effective military strategy to deprive the Plains Indians of their main food source.
Thought it was commercial hunters. Didn't know it was strategic.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:17 pm to KosmoCramer
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Despite being the closest relatives of domestic cattle native to North America, bison were never domesticated by native Americans. Later attempts of domestication by Europeans prior to the 20th century met with limited success. Bison were described as having "wild and ungovernable temper";[34] they can jump 6 feet (1.8 m) vertically,[35] and run 35–40 mph (56–64 km/h) when agitated. This agility and speed, combined with their great size and weight, makes bison herds difficult to confine as they can easily escape or destroy most fencing systems, including most razor wire.
There are approximately 500,000 bison in captive commercial populations (mostly plains bison) on about 4,000 privately owned ranches. [36] Under the IUCN Red List Guidelines, commercial herds are not eligible for consideration in determining a Red List designation, therefore the total population of bison calculated in conservation herds is approximately 30,000 individuals and the mature population consists of approximately 20,000 individuals. Of the total number presented, only 15,000 total individuals are considered wild bison in the natural range within North America (free-ranging, not confined primarily by fencing).[37]
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:18 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Thought it was commercial hunters. Didn't know it was strategic.
It was commercial, but it was part of a strategic plan. Eliminate the Indians ability to supply themselves, force them on to reservations which was the only place they could get food.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:21 pm to Jim Rockford
I think they also killed them to keep the train tracks clear...
Original range.
Original range.
This post was edited on 6/29/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:22 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I don't blame the hunters
For one thing, they weren't hunters, IMO. Anyone going out to kill animals specifically (and only, usually) for their hide is not a hunter. So, I definitely blame the selfish, short-sighted pricks.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:23 pm to wickowick
yeah, you can see a big swale in the ground through my uncles subdivision in Shreveport that used to be a buffalo trail. They also used to live in the marsh in S. LA, believe it or not.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:26 pm to wickowick
Year American
bison (est)
Before 1492---------------60,000,000
1890----------------------750
2000------------------360,000
bison (est)
Before 1492---------------60,000,000
1890----------------------750
2000------------------360,000
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:30 pm to Tom288
Well they were in point of fact hunters- ethical or not. And I'll agree they were selfish and short sighted. But in those days lack of education and survival trumped the conservation themes we know today. If They even considered conservation
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:31 pm to wickowick
I still chuckle when I think how Kevin Costner in 'Dances with Wolves' was dropping bison with one shot from a .44 Henry rimfire. 
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:34 pm to wickowick
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Year American
bison (est)
Before 1492---------------60,000,000
1890----------------------750
2000------------------360,000
That is hard to even comprehend.
When I read statistics like that, it is infuriating.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:38 pm to eyepooted
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When I read statistics like that, it is infuriating.
I wonder where the American cattle industry would be if the bison survived in large numbers. Apparently they, like the Indians were a problem for early American settlers...
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:41 pm to eyepooted
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When I read statistics like that, it is infuriating.
Different times plus they were basically at war with the Indians.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 2:42 pm to eyepooted
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That is hard to even comprehend.
When I read statistics like that, it is infuriating.
why?
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