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Beginner deer hunter with some questions

Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:50 pm
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:50 pm
Today was my second hunt. Was an evening hunt. I got out there at 2:30 and was settled in my stand just before 3. Is this too late? Also what is the latest I should be staying in my stand? I left today a little after 6 but felt like maybe I left too early. Do people usually stay until it's actually dark? It was starting to get hard to see for me and I figured I couldn't shoot anything at that point so that's when I decided to leave. Also on the flip side, for morning hunts what time is good to be in the stand. Hoping to make some morning hunts soon.

The good news is my second hunt was a lot more lively than my first. Mainly bc I actually saw a nice sized doe today. She first showed up to my left and made her way all around my stand at about 35 yards distance the whole time but she always remained behind too much brush. It was good to see though.

Thanks for any insight here.
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
6604 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:53 pm to
I'd be set up for 2:30. Stay til you can't see through the scope. Left way to early missed prime time.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17251 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:55 pm to
Glad you' had a good hunt, evening hunts are my favorite


What time to leave? Depends if you are hunting with others, if you leaving will disrupt their hunt then you need to coordinate, if not then leave when you feel that you do not have enough daylight to make a safe assessment and make a good shot, as you get more experience and better optics that will change, but as a novice error on the safe side

As for morning hunts I like to be in the stand and settled at least 15 min before any light
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16164 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:11 pm to
I stay in the evening until I decide I can not make out a deer from another animal walking.

For morning hunts, I generally get to the stand about 10 minutes before legal shooting light. I try to walk the last 100 yds or so with no flashlight.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2026 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:11 pm to
As far as morning hunts, I used to like to be in my stand about 30min before first light. But I realized that I was probably making too much noise trying to make my way to my stand in the dark. I hunt public land but we have some ladder stands out and I use a climber sometimes. So with first come, first serve that comes with public land, I like to be parked in my spot real early. If I have a long walk, I get there in grey light so I can see and ease my way in. I've noticed that I kick up less deer when I can see a little than going in in pitch black.

Last yr towards the end of our season in Feb, I was in a spot I had never hunted. Climbed a tree at 7am not 20yds from a fresh scrape. It was getting late and I needed to find a spot. Had a shooter walk out coming straight for the scrape at 7:35. I'm not sure I was even settled in my stand. He made some great deer burgers with some added bacon ends.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5529 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:42 pm to
Mornings I usually get to the stand right at/after first light if I didn't drink to much the night before. I've hunted all my life and never seen a deer at first light (when I actually did get there at 5:15 am) that would make me get there third minutes early. I stay in the evening till I can't tell if the deer is a "shooter" or not. I usually get to the stand in the afternoons around 2:30-3 (this depends on what games are on.) Right now though (pre-time change) it's moved up an hour or so. I should add that I've killed my share of big deer and hunting for me is more about the camp experience and filling the freezer than shooting a trophy now.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26440 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:39 pm to
Just remember if you harvest a deer in the evening you have to clean it at night. Lol
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4298 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:46 pm to
My first deer was at dawn, pre sunrise, so I've tried to get out before dawn when I'm not hungover. Deer are kinda crepuscular (active dawn n dusk), but become nocturnal when threatened. Im not the greatest hunter ever but I've shot them early, late morning, highnoon, early afternoon, late afternoon and barely visible dusk.

The later you shoot the later you track and clean.

Go whenever you can get there and stay as long as is safe.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 12:18 am to
Evening hunts are depending on a lot of things. If I'm hunting alone, I won't stay till dark. Once it gets to the point that I can't make out a for from a spike or a mature buck from a young one or feel like I can't make an ethical shot with my bow I get down. id rather slip out then instead of waiting till it's so dark that I cants see that shooter 50 yards away and tipping him off to my tree.

Of course it gets darker in the woods way before a field / opening so if you're hunting with others you have to be mindful that just because you can't see doesn't mean they can't

Rifle hunting is different because with the naked eye you might see a deer but with a scope you may be able to make out way more detail


For morning hunts I like to shoot for being in my stand 30min before daylight when bow hunting. Gives me a chance to settle in and have everything set up. Rifle hunting is different. On real cold mornings I'll slip in at first light. Haven't seen many deer at first light when it's below 30 degrees. Honestly, I see more deer in morning hunts between 8:30 and 10:00 am. On a full moon I want to be there 30 min before daylight because depending on the setup. Always the chance that the full moon causes a lot of light in the woods and that buck can get caught away from his bed when the sun starts to rise and you can catch him trying to slip back to his bed.

Basically, I don't thing there is a set "rule" but for a novice, be there 30min before daylight and hunt till at least 9:30 in the mornings. In the afternoon give yourself 3.5 hours minimum in the stand and stay till you either can't make an ethical shot / or can't properly identify your target or you know you won't disturb anyone else.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 1:02 am to
I usually hunt 3 hours in the evening and at least 4-5 hrs in the morning, or til I feel like getting down

Definitely stay til dark, its not dark until you can't see anything through your scope. The law technically says 30 mins after sunset is shooting time.

For morning, need to be in the stand minimum of 20 minutes before daybreak. Some guys get out there at like 4am...I like sleep too much for that BS.

Eta- mornings I usually see deer about 8-10, hardly anything earlier than that. Evening I see them right before dark.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 1:07 am
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12973 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 5:45 am to
Shooting hours end a half hour after sunset. I pretty much leave the minute shooting hours are over. You can find sunset for your exact location on weather apps, then add the half hour. There's nothing wrong with the time you got to your stand. Always remember, you're hunting for leisure. Enjoy yourself. If staying in the stand all day is enjoyable, do it. If you get burned out from sitting just a couple hours, don't let someone else tell you what you HAVE to do. Some people are trying to give good advice, some are trying to look like super hunters that sit in the stand all day every time they hunt because "they are better than the rest of us"
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:11 am to
Op, a lot depends on winds to when I get on a stand. Also, stand placement all depends on what time in the season I will hunt that stand. Early season, I have more east, northeast winds were as later season I have northwestern winds.

Deer can't see crap unless you move, but they can smell you miles away.

Morning hunts, 1/2 hour before day light. I walk well over 500 yards to my stands.

Evening hunts, which I hate due to having to deal with cleaning a deer, I go in around 2pm. A lot depends on how dry it is due to walking on dry leaves. Dam deer will hear you a mile away.

Deer hunting is very easy if one thinks as a deer. Wind, sound and smell can make or break a hunt. If you keep that in mine, you will see more deer and other animals.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7598 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:16 am to
I have always got in my stand 30 minutes to an hour before daylight. I have seen most of my deer between 7 and 10. If i can't get in stand like I mentioned then I rather not go until 10 am.

In the afternoon I don't leave until I can't see. I have hunted all day long from dark to dark and it hasn't paid off yet. The morning hunts are normally my best and I can't imagine getting my stand at day break.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12973 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:35 am to
Deer movement is obviously affected by weather, and also moon phases. Deer also seem to move at certain times on different properties. Where we hunt evenings are usually king for seeing numbers of deer, but as my boss likes to say, " everything is subject to change".
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 7:52 am to
Well I was going to post some follow up questions but after reading through all the replies they've all been answered. Thanks again for the tips. Mid thirties seems like an odd time to start hunting but I want to get my son into it (he's about to turn six and is already talking about it I guess bc of other kids at school) and figured I can't teach him if I don't start first. I already bought his lifetime hunting and fishing license (I'm good on the fishing part!).

I've watched a few youtube videos on field dressing a deer and tips on cleaning them. Hopefully I get to test some of them out soon. Although I'm not opposed to bringing it somewhere to be done either. Any tips for that in or near the BR area?
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:04 am to
I've never paid to have a deer cleaned, I'm not sure where you would go to get that done.

Where are you hunting? Family property? Joined a club? Is there anyone who you can call when you kill one to lend you a hand and some instruction?

It's one of those things best learned hands on, but its not difficult. If you joined a club, get in there with every deer killed and learn. Most people generally want to teach you how they do it.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17760 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:08 am to
Don't pay for that. A rack and a sharp knife is all you need. It may take you a while the first couple times but once you get the general idea it's a peice of cake
Posted by MitchMartin
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2013
709 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:16 am to
The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game: Volume 1: Big Game By Steven Rinella is a great book with lots of useful information and pictures. It would be a great start and it's under 20 bucks on amazon.

I highly recommend it.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:45 am to
Morning hunt: always in my stand a minimum of 30 to 45 minutes before legal shooting time to let the woods settle and get back to normal. (if camera dictates they are in early I have been known to get in stand as much as 1.5 hrs before daylight) I usually sit until 10-10:30am before daylight savings time and 930 945 after. Depending on deer movement from trial cams.

Day hunt: Full moon weeks, I usually get out there around 8:30am to 8:45 and sit until 2pm. I do this on weeks where the moon is more than half on upswing and decline and CLEAR nights. Clear nights is key for the moon light to make them active, if its a really cloudy week of the full moon ill let camera traffic dictate my sit times. Deer like to move on a 12hr rotation. If they move all night chances are high they will get up in the middle of the day to get a bite, stretch there legs or freshen up a scrape line.

Evening hunts: Before daylight savings time I like to be in my stand by 4pm at the very latest if work allows I get there sooner. 3pm after daylight savings. Never get off of my stand before I lose the ability to see in that area PLUS 15 minutes. I say that because if I am in a bottom hunting I lose light significantly earlier than I do up on a ridge in open woods. I stay that 15 minutes extra so I do not spook anything walking out or walking to an area that holds light longer than where I am hunting. I started that years ago and have noticed I spook a lot less game walking out after dark. So many times as a young man I got off the second I couldn't see and would walk 200yds and get blown at. lessons learned


RUT: Throw everything I said above out the window and hunt as often and as early and as long as you can. In 30+ years of hunting there really is not a solid rut pattern to follow. I have tried it all. My one go to for the rut is find a pure thicket with sign, Doe, and activity, get high in a tree as close as you can to it and start a grunt pattern and spray a little esterous around. I have been known to rattle with it a little
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 9:14 am
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:54 am to
I've had success sleeping in and going to the stand at 10ish and stay till 1:30ish, take a break and go back around 3:15 and sit till dark. You'd be surprised at how active the deer are around lunch time when all the other morons on our lease are back at camp eating eggs and bacon.

Except during the rut; I try to be in the stand by daylight.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:57 am
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