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re: Ballistic heads and long range guys, caliber recommendation
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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I consider it a boutique cartridge, but you're to be handloading anyway. 6mm Norma BR might be an option.
I've got a 6mm Norma BR and it's a FINE gun. Mine is an XP-100 w/ a 16" barrel. It's quite possibly the most accurate gun I have. It's also my second favorite prairie dog hunting gun. Having said that, I'd NOT recommend it as an elk hunting gun. In some circumstances a 100 grain bullet at 2800 fps might be adequate on an 800# elk, but would be inadequate under many situations.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Yea a 30 is what I really would like to stay with so the 30 Nosler diff peaks my interest. The 338 is bigger than I would like and more than what I feel I need for elk, I am comfortable with using a hot 220-230g bullet on a elk.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:58 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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It's quite possibly the most accurate gun I have.
That's what put in on my list. Most shooters won't be good enough to test the accuracy of the round itself - it will default to as good as the shooter in most cases. What else do you want?
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In some circumstances a 100 grain bullet at 2800 fps might be adequate on an 800# elk, but would be inadequate under many situations.
Fair enough - terminal performance on an Elk would be questionable in some shots. I think the OP will end up with a 30 Nosler or .300 Weatherby - and do fine.
I tend to make final choices like you do. I mentioned .338 Win mag, as did you, and I would rather have a little too much gun (particularly at range) than a little too little. I can always choose to not take the shot, but if I do and I hit, I don't want to wound the animal because I fricked up some math or caliber choice.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:59 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
If it were me I would look 1st at the 7mm win mag. Wide range of option for guns and factory ammo. Plus pretty much big enough for any animal in the US at any distance.
The .264 win mag is a really neat round and I would love to have one of these as well but not sure how widely available the ammo is.
I have a bit of a crush on the 6.5 creedmoor admittedly however for a shot on an elk at longer distances (300yds +), I'm not sure that I would not rather have the 7mm win mag.
Weatherby makes so many great calibers but if you plan on buying ammo it's pretty crazy expensive. My .257 wby mag is ~$80 for 20. Brass isn't cheap either.
The .264 win mag is a really neat round and I would love to have one of these as well but not sure how widely available the ammo is.
I have a bit of a crush on the 6.5 creedmoor admittedly however for a shot on an elk at longer distances (300yds +), I'm not sure that I would not rather have the 7mm win mag.
Weatherby makes so many great calibers but if you plan on buying ammo it's pretty crazy expensive. My .257 wby mag is ~$80 for 20. Brass isn't cheap either.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:06 pm to bbvdd
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Weatherby makes so many great calibers but if you plan on buying ammo it's pretty crazy expensive.
Yeah. Everything in life comes with consequences.
I still love Weatherby.Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:06 pm to bbvdd
Weatherby has great rounds , no doubt, but overall just not very practical for the very reason you mentioned. I love obscure rounds (.264 win mag makes me happy happy), but if ammo availability and long range performance is truly what OP wants, then it's a 300 winny. The rest is just guys on the interwebs trying to look smart.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:14 pm to GREENHEAD22
I hunted a couple of years ago out west and the Gunwerks guys were in camp. They are big proponents of the 6.5 Creedmore.
I have a buddy that builds rifles and he is a fan of the 7 Short Mag. The reason on the 7 Short is that the powder burns faster and the ballistic coefficient of the 7mm Berger VLD bullets. He has killed deer at 1400 yards with the gun.
It is a great caliber for hunting in the south with the occasional trip out West for big game.
I have a close friend that has an 7STW and a 300 RUM. He prefers the 300RUM.
I shoot a 7 Rem. Mag. and it kills a plenty on big game inside of 500 yards.
Another friend had a Weatherby 30-378. That joker was bad news...similar ballistics to a 338 Lapua. It was expensive to shoot though, so he got rid of it.
I have a buddy that builds rifles and he is a fan of the 7 Short Mag. The reason on the 7 Short is that the powder burns faster and the ballistic coefficient of the 7mm Berger VLD bullets. He has killed deer at 1400 yards with the gun.
It is a great caliber for hunting in the south with the occasional trip out West for big game.
I have a close friend that has an 7STW and a 300 RUM. He prefers the 300RUM.
I shoot a 7 Rem. Mag. and it kills a plenty on big game inside of 500 yards.
Another friend had a Weatherby 30-378. That joker was bad news...similar ballistics to a 338 Lapua. It was expensive to shoot though, so he got rid of it.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:26 pm to GREENHEAD22
Long range Hunting and long range-benchrest type stuff: 300winmag
Only long range target shooting (factory ammo): 6.5 Creedmoore
Only long range target shooting (reloading you ammo): 6.5X47 Lapua.
Only long range target shooting (factory ammo): 6.5 Creedmoore
Only long range target shooting (reloading you ammo): 6.5X47 Lapua.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:40 pm to GREENHEAD22
Whatever you do, don't mention in here that you're capable of executing accurate shots at long range or even at 200+ yards. That shite don't fly round here baw.
I've had a .300WIN MAG Remington Sendaro for 17 years. Once I got the setup right it has been unstoppable. Find a rifle that you're comfortable with and a scope with good eye relief and quality glass. Decide how far out you plan on shooting and base the magnification on that. The right scope is VERY important.
Like any gun, the more you shoot it the more accuate you will be with it.
Long range is lots of fun, good luck!
I've had a .300WIN MAG Remington Sendaro for 17 years. Once I got the setup right it has been unstoppable. Find a rifle that you're comfortable with and a scope with good eye relief and quality glass. Decide how far out you plan on shooting and base the magnification on that. The right scope is VERY important.
Like any gun, the more you shoot it the more accuate you will be with it.
Long range is lots of fun, good luck!
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:02 pm to Ace Midnight
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I would rather have a little too much gun (particularly at range) than a little too little. I can always choose to not take the shot, but if I do and I hit, I don't want to wound the animal because I fricked up some math or caliber choice.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:51 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
For anything walking planet earth.338 Lapua is bad to the bone. Pun intended.
Look at the top 10 record sniper kills, many used .338 lapua
Look at the top 10 record sniper kills, many used .338 lapua
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:17 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Long range Hunting and long range-benchrest type stuff: 300winmag
Yep. Its an all around great caliber, obviously. There are more accurate and more powerful choices, but she's a good middle ground.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:22 pm to GREENHEAD22
According to guides most elk are killed around 200 yards.
I'd say to 7mm mag and call it done
I'd say to 7mm mag and call it done
Posted on 4/29/16 at 5:53 am to texag7
I appreciate the inputs but if yall haven't noticed the standard rounds are a no go.
The 338 is bigger than I want or need.
If the ballistics of the 30 nosler compared to the 300Rum are similar to the 28 compared to the 7STW then it will probably be that.
The 338 is bigger than I want or need.
If the ballistics of the 30 nosler compared to the 300Rum are similar to the 28 compared to the 7STW then it will probably be that.
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