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Are Louisiana's anglers selling their speckled trout?

Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:46 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:46 am
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According to NOAA Fisheries landings data, only about 70,000 pounds, on average, of Gulf-region speckled trout have been commercially caught and sold in the U.S. every year since 2000, and the numbers are trending downward. In 2015, in fact, Gulf Coast commercial fishers harvested only 38,000 pounds of speckled trout.


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Prior to 1995, the state's commercial fishers were subject to a 1-million-pound annual quota, and they regularly met it, but that year, the Legislature banned entanglement nets for commercial fishing. As part of the negotiating process, legislators added a commercial rod-and-reel fishery for speckled trout, but opened it only to fishers who could prove they earned a substantial portion of their income from speckled trout harvest.

In 2016, only 14 of these individuals remained active in the fishery, according to the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. That year, they harvested only 2,462 pounds of speckled trout.



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In 2016, agents made 41 cases that involved selling fish caught recreationally or buying or selling fish without a wholesale or retail dealer's license, Einck said.


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Some anglers feel that since Louisiana has such abundant natural resources and liberal limits on estuarine fish, they should be legally allowed to sell at least a portion of their catch. Loosening of restrictions, they argue, would allow fresh, local seafood to be sold to the non-angling public through seafood markets and restaurants.

The Louisiana Restaurant Association didn't reply to numerous requests asking if the organization would support such a move, but David Cresson, chief executive officer of the Coastal Conservation Association, said his group is entirely opposed to it.

"We believe that as soon as you put a price on a fish, or any wildlife resource, you change the motivations and inevitably increase pressure on that resource past what it can sustainably endure," he said. "That is a lesson we learned on land and in fresh water many years ago, but we still haven't embraced it in the marine environment."
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:51 am to
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Are Louisiana's anglers selling their speckled trout?


Whole lot more are than people are willing to admit.
Posted by bayouvette
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:45 am to
I know people that sell bass and sacalait. This is why they have no care in the world on how big or how many they catch. Its all money to them.
Posted by LEASTBAY
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:04 am to
I was wondering how restaraunts are putting trout on the menu. A few months back my fiancé ordered trout almondine from a local restaraunt but I'm pretty sure it was catfish almondine. The filet was massive.
Posted by TJG210
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:19 am to
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I was wondering how restaraunts are putting trout on the menu. A few months back my fiancé ordered trout almondine from a local restaraunt but I'm pretty sure it was catfish almondine. The filet was massive.


Much like crab cakes, unless I'm at a fine dining establishment I won't even think of ordering something labeled as speckled trout. Hell I went to a pretty well know place ordered a speckled trout dish and was 99.9% sure what I received wasn't trout at all.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:22 am to
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Are Louisiana's anglers selling their speckled trout?


Whole lot more are than people are willing to admit.


How does this work?
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:27 am to
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The filet was massive.
Was probably basa or pangasius, the Viet Cong shitpond "catfish".
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:27 am to
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How does this work?


Ask those guys that just got busted on Lake Ponchartrain. People make some serious money trolling for bigger trout over there during certain times of the year
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:31 am to
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"catfish"
Well, they are catfish.
Posted by sonoma8
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:39 am to
I like me some fatfish me
Posted by JasonL79
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:39 am to
I've been out of the commercial industry for 7 years now, but you could still buy speckle trout back then from Mississippi and the Carolinas. There was also gray trout available from time to time from the east coast. Besides that, there was still a good bit of whole speckle trout coming out of Mexico (fresh and also IQF).

Louisiana may have mostly dried up due to the laws but it can still be found in different areas. There are still some locals (that were allowed to keep their license due to the new law) here that probably rod n reel fish for them also.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:41 am to
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I was wondering how restaraunts are putting trout on the menu


They have commercial fisherman that harvest trout.

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:42 am to
You better take care of that knife or I'll pull your toes in your sleep.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:50 am to
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Much like crab cakes, unless I'm at a fine dining establishment I won't even think of ordering something labeled as speckled trout. Hell I went to a pretty well know place ordered a speckled trout dish and was 99.9% sure what I received wasn't trout at all.


This happens for more than just speckled trout. Mislabeling and renaming of fish has been a problem for a long time. Tilapia is sold as more expensive species all the time. Cheaper species are commonly sold as red snapper and tuna. It really is a huge problem.

Have you ever heard of Patagonian toothfish? Maybe you've seen it on menus as Chilean seabass, a made up name to get consumers to buy it, instead. (Which is a species that is overharvested, as far as I know.)
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:53 am to
I actually also went to a gulf coast casino this past weekend and ordered some sort of redfish dish topped with crabmeat. It was also some form of catfish etc.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:05 am to
I've seen more and more places listing their dish as "fish" instead of specifying. TBH I've tried avoiding ordering fish out completely. I find the idea of Shitpond tilapia/bassa revolting.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:07 am to
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Are Louisiana's anglers selling their speckled trout?


From what some older folks have told me, this was actually a pretty wide practice as of 30 or so years ago. I remember my dad telling me about doing this all the time.

With the fishing pressure the resource sees now, I think this would be a bad idea to allow on a large scale basis.
Posted by OceanTiger
Checking out Paradise
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:12 am to
Mandina's??
Posted by KennaBruh
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:32 am to
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We believe that as soon as you put a price on a fish


FWIW speckled trout is about $14/lb at Harbor Seafood in Kenner
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3009 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:36 pm to
I tell people all of the time I dont eat seafood unless I catch it, or know the person who caught it and sold it to the restaurant. Just dont trust it and half the time it is disgusting.
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