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Anyone fished Lake Borgne lately?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:44 pm
Wondering if the crabbers have their traps out in the lake right now...
Thinking about going to fish some reds and trips this weekend.
Thinking about going to fish some reds and trips this weekend.
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:55 pm to stewie
I fished proctor point and a few of the rigs off Alligator point last week with my boy. Caught some nice reds and a few decent trout, noticed more crab traps than there were in early/mid June.
Also noticed duckweed mixed with alligator weed floating all over. This stuff must have come from St. Bernard Parish after the rains. I was thinking it might look like a tripletail hangout, but caught none.*
* ETA - Tripletail are a mystery to me. I understand tripletail fishing as much as I understand women.
Also noticed duckweed mixed with alligator weed floating all over. This stuff must have come from St. Bernard Parish after the rains. I was thinking it might look like a tripletail hangout, but caught none.*
* ETA - Tripletail are a mystery to me. I understand tripletail fishing as much as I understand women.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:16 pm to dat yat
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* ETA - Tripletail are a mystery to me. I understand tripletail fishing as much as I understand women.
Seems like some times they are here and easy to catch...then some times you can easily get skunked.
It would be the first time this year I've tried to fish them...just wondering if the crab traps are thick.
Been dying to hook up to one on the fly...
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:30 pm to stewie
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wondering if the crab traps are thick.
More than last month but not as thick as last year. Some have been out a while and have growth on them.
Louie has live shrimp at Chef Harbor Marina. Good luck.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:43 pm to stewie
You're not going to see many triple tail because the river has been so high and the wind has been so shitty. Unfortunately it's getting a little bit late to recover for them. There are plenty trout and reds in the marsh though.
If you actually know nothing about triple tail, check this video out. We made this a couple years ago and it's basic "how to" as far as hunting them goes. We caught a tagged fish in that video. Hopefully LDWF finds out more and more about them. We need limits. The proposed 5 is too much.
LINK
If you're having problems or need some areas to look, shoot me an email and I'll see if I can help you out more. scolle3@lsu.edu.
There are plenty of traps but the fish just aren't there. They won't cross into that fresh water.
If you actually know nothing about triple tail, check this video out. We made this a couple years ago and it's basic "how to" as far as hunting them goes. We caught a tagged fish in that video. Hopefully LDWF finds out more and more about them. We need limits. The proposed 5 is too much.
LINK
If you're having problems or need some areas to look, shoot me an email and I'll see if I can help you out more. scolle3@lsu.edu.
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It would be the first time this year I've tried to fish them...just wondering if the crab traps are thick.
Been dying to hook up to one on the fly...
There are plenty of traps but the fish just aren't there. They won't cross into that fresh water.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:10 pm to bluemoons
Cool video. I live a five minute run to Lake Borgne and need to learn tripletail. I already have the treble hooks and several colors of Matrix Shad, including Shrimp Creole. Gotta try that.
Also, the reggae tune: "To the rescue, Sea Tow time" is subtle. Took me a bit to catch on.
Also, the reggae tune: "To the rescue, Sea Tow time" is subtle. Took me a bit to catch on.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:25 pm to dat yat
Haha man I didn't even remember that song until I watched that video. Haven't seen it in a long time.
Fishing those fish is much, much easier with live shrimp. They're finicky. They're fun to fly fish and to fish with plastics, but you have to be very visually aware and set the hook fast. They'll spit hooks if they don't like the taste faster than you can pull slack out of your line to set the hook. They're also weird about croaker/pogies. Sometimes they'll bite them, sometimes they won't. Same with dead shrimp. Live shrimp is a sure fire bait that will catch them if you see them. They're not a difficult fish to catch, which is a problem. There are a couple of tricks you can learn to help you on weekends, but we really just need limits. On years when the fish really come in, you'll see guys come through the dock with 10 fish and only one is bigger than 18". That shite is ridiculous.
Like I said though, they're really just not here this year. The pearl really messed us up and we can thank the river for both the lack of trout in the lake and the lack of tripletail in Borgne. We've caught a few, but it's been the worst year I've seen since I can remember. I've been focusing my energy on the marsh hah.
Fishing those fish is much, much easier with live shrimp. They're finicky. They're fun to fly fish and to fish with plastics, but you have to be very visually aware and set the hook fast. They'll spit hooks if they don't like the taste faster than you can pull slack out of your line to set the hook. They're also weird about croaker/pogies. Sometimes they'll bite them, sometimes they won't. Same with dead shrimp. Live shrimp is a sure fire bait that will catch them if you see them. They're not a difficult fish to catch, which is a problem. There are a couple of tricks you can learn to help you on weekends, but we really just need limits. On years when the fish really come in, you'll see guys come through the dock with 10 fish and only one is bigger than 18". That shite is ridiculous.
Like I said though, they're really just not here this year. The pearl really messed us up and we can thank the river for both the lack of trout in the lake and the lack of tripletail in Borgne. We've caught a few, but it's been the worst year I've seen since I can remember. I've been focusing my energy on the marsh hah.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:33 pm to bluemoons
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I've been focusing my energy on the marsh
Yep. Trout are less than last year; and my best red trips have been the points in Lake B and the Biloxi Marsh.
Oh, and a few kayak trips into the close in marsh have been good for reds too.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:05 am to dat yat
I really haven't gotten to kayak fish as much as I've wanted. Every weekend I tell myself I'm going to hopedale but one thing or the other comes up and I don't. I fished a couple times in the marsh off highway 11 earlier this summer and did well, but I haven't been since.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:50 am to bluemoons
You fishing by Irish Bayou? If so how'd the grass back there?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:04 am to Me4Heisman
In my kayak I've stuck to the northshore of 11. A friend of mine has been doing decently well back in the marsh around Irish bayou and the intracoastal though. Haven't fished it, but folks have been catching good numbers of reds in bienvenue.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:47 am to bluemoons
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but we really just need limits
Why? From what I have read, they don't really know much about Tripletail. And what they do know suggests that they reproduce pretty quickly. I know other states have an 18" limit, but it sounds like there is not a lot of data to back that up.
As of right now, it doesn't seem like it's a heavily targeted species. And they are only fished for a few months out of the year. How much damage to the population could anglers really be doing?
Not trying to imply what you're saying isn't true, just asking why you think there should be a limit.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:58 am to DownSouthDave
For several reasons. The first, you stated yourself. We don't know enough about them just to go slamming these fish. For all we know, we could be seriously harming the populations and the spawn. Or, we could have no effect on the populations at all. We don't know. I think most would agree that it's better to err on the safe side with a finite natural resource.
Secondly, they are heavily targeted. The numbers of people fishing triple tail in Lake Borgne the past four years has shot through the roof. Before that, you could go run around the lake and not see another boat all day. Now, you see 6 boats at a time out there cutting each other off running trap strings. Anytime it's a calm weekend day, most folks would be better off fishing something else and saving their gas. This, coupled with the fact that there simply aren't that many of them to target on a given day, has a negative effect on everyone else trying to fish them. Limits would alleviate that problem to an extent. Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about this. The fish is a super fun fish to catch and I want as many people to be able to experience fishing them as possible. But, we need to figure out how to do that sustainably. We've spoken with LDWF about possible programs for people that target the fish often, and that's something you could see in the future.
Back when I first started heavily targeting the fish several years ago, we would stop fishing after putting 3-4 in the boat. Some days, you'd see 20-30 fish like it was nothing. Nobody fished them. Very, very rarely did I go fishing and not see fish. Now, it's more common to not see fish. When you do see them, they're often smaller and the numbers are much lower. A good day for me now is seeing 8-10.
This is all limited to the sight fishing context, and ignores the fact that a lot of folks are figuring out how to catch fish without sight fishing them.
The most important thing to me re: limits is the sheer number of people I've seen come in with boxes full of 10+ fish, half of which are the size of bluegill. There is absolutely no reason for that shite. You can't yet enough meat off the small ones to make it worth cleaning, and you're effectively bringing in a bunch of 10" redfish. Female triple tail mature around 18".
Secondly, they are heavily targeted. The numbers of people fishing triple tail in Lake Borgne the past four years has shot through the roof. Before that, you could go run around the lake and not see another boat all day. Now, you see 6 boats at a time out there cutting each other off running trap strings. Anytime it's a calm weekend day, most folks would be better off fishing something else and saving their gas. This, coupled with the fact that there simply aren't that many of them to target on a given day, has a negative effect on everyone else trying to fish them. Limits would alleviate that problem to an extent. Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about this. The fish is a super fun fish to catch and I want as many people to be able to experience fishing them as possible. But, we need to figure out how to do that sustainably. We've spoken with LDWF about possible programs for people that target the fish often, and that's something you could see in the future.
Back when I first started heavily targeting the fish several years ago, we would stop fishing after putting 3-4 in the boat. Some days, you'd see 20-30 fish like it was nothing. Nobody fished them. Very, very rarely did I go fishing and not see fish. Now, it's more common to not see fish. When you do see them, they're often smaller and the numbers are much lower. A good day for me now is seeing 8-10.
This is all limited to the sight fishing context, and ignores the fact that a lot of folks are figuring out how to catch fish without sight fishing them.
The most important thing to me re: limits is the sheer number of people I've seen come in with boxes full of 10+ fish, half of which are the size of bluegill. There is absolutely no reason for that shite. You can't yet enough meat off the small ones to make it worth cleaning, and you're effectively bringing in a bunch of 10" redfish. Female triple tail mature around 18".
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:10 am to bluemoons
I understand your concern, my only reservation is that once you are creating limits without actually knowing that they are needed. You said yourself that the water is terrible this year and the fish just aren't there. I don't think that is fair saying that we need limits because there are no fish on one hand while saying the water is bad, so there are no fish on the other.
For a fish that spends much of its life offshore, I don't think a couple months of being jerked off of crab traps does any harm. And I could be wrong, I just think that they need to prove that it does before they create limits.
That's not worth a shite. Nobody likes to be over run with boats while fishing. And I can see how that's a pain in the arse. But is the reasoning behind introducing limits to make a day of fishing easier or to protect a resource?
How do you target them without sight fishing? I didn't know that people really caught them other ways.
For a fish that spends much of its life offshore, I don't think a couple months of being jerked off of crab traps does any harm. And I could be wrong, I just think that they need to prove that it does before they create limits.
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Now, you see 6 boats at a time out there cutting each other off running trap strings
That's not worth a shite. Nobody likes to be over run with boats while fishing. And I can see how that's a pain in the arse. But is the reasoning behind introducing limits to make a day of fishing easier or to protect a resource?
How do you target them without sight fishing? I didn't know that people really caught them other ways.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:15 am to bluemoons
i'm dying to learn more about fishing the northshore around slidell. I've got a boat but no clue what i'm doing around here.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:26 am to bluemoons
My BIL grew up fishing LB and he's alarmed with what he's seen so far this year with TT. He's really afraid that the portion of the population that sought crab balls may have been effected by overfishing. He doesn't know though.
He keeps one a trip if that, and I know he'd be OK with 2 per limit with a minimum size.
He keeps one a trip if that, and I know he'd be OK with 2 per limit with a minimum size.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:40 am to DownSouthDave
Yeah this year has been tough, but the numbers were down last year too. They were there, just not as many. We also didn't have the river to blame like we do this year.
There are various ways to target them without sight fishing depending on currents, water clarity, and salinity. Some folks like to use light Carolina rigs in current and try to suspend or slowly drop baits around trap lines.
I could tell you more, but then I'd be giving away all my weekend secrets haha.
If people fish with me, they do so knowing that we keep two per person over 18". That's just me though.
There are various ways to target them without sight fishing depending on currents, water clarity, and salinity. Some folks like to use light Carolina rigs in current and try to suspend or slowly drop baits around trap lines.
I could tell you more, but then I'd be giving away all my weekend secrets haha.
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He keeps one a trip if that, and I know he'd be OK with 2 per limit with a minimum size.
If people fish with me, they do so knowing that we keep two per person over 18". That's just me though.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:45 am to Clint Torres
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Clint Torres
Honestly man, hire a local guide. Go into it without being concerned about catching a lot of fish, but learning. Tell the guide that. Kris Robert (in that video up there), Dudley, Eric Dumas...they're all great dudes and will help you out if you really want to learn how to fish the lake. Just pay attention to the things they do. Ask them questions. The northshore is not a particularly "difficult" area to fish. We just don't have as many fish as there are down south and you have to know how tides, winds, and salinities affect everything. It's not rocket science though...it just takes a lot of trial and error. You can mitigate that by hiring a guide though. Can't emphasize that enough.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:46 am to bluemoons
quote:so when we going fishing?
If people fish with me, they do so knowing that we keep two per person over 18". That's just me though.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:48 am to bluemoons
He's a big sight fisher and all and yea he has a few techniques that he uses. He's very successful with it. Also has shot more than 1 TV show doing it. The latest was with sport fishing television. Hopefully it's just a down year so far.
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