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Advice on getting ducks to finish

Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:27 am
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:27 am
So this past Friday I found a large flooded lake bottom grown up with willows, buckbrush and lots of vegetation. It was broken up with pockets of water and beaver channels. It also had hundreds of mallards in it. Saturday I hunted it for the 2nd split opener (in OK) expecting to have a quick limit - boy was I mistaken.

I hunted with 2 other experienced hunters. We were well covered and were hunting over a spread that consisted of 12 mallard decoys (4 active, 4 feeders, 4 sleepers), 4 gadwall on a jerk string, and a single mojo. All morning an almost identical scenario played out regardless of whether we used the mojo or not, where we were located (we moved thinking that was the problem and it didn't help), and whether or not I touched the jerk string.

90% of the workable birds would come in, circle, respond well to light calling when flying away, continue to circle numerous times and then finally leave. They didn't land anywhere close by and other than the few flocks I know flared from us being dumb, they didn't seem to flare - just decided not to land. The ones we did kill were really just the few birds whose circles were low enough and directly overhead.

Furthermore, they almost seemed to disregard the decoys. They would circle over specific openings in the water or over us (presumably due to the calling), but really didn't focus on the decoys much at all.

Any advice on what we could do differently? Way more decoys? No decoys? Different decoys? FWIW, almost all of the 150-200 birds we saw that worked were mallards.

ETA: picture for your troubles:
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 10:36 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48928 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:28 am to
Did you continue to call when they were coming in?

A lot of times people over call and flare the birds off. Use the call to get their attention then let them do their own thing
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:30 am to
Let me know when you are available for me to provide you with my consulting services.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37721 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:32 am to
The ducks were probably looking for the
quote:

hundreds of mallards
that were in the hole. What they saw was a few sketchy looking mallards and a couple honkies. So they bailed
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:33 am to
Yep.

Call when they're going away. Shut up when they're coming in/circling in.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Call when they're going away. Shut up when they're coming in/circling in.


That's how I always call. Just a few soft, low quacks when I saw tips and tails and they would turn and come back then I would shut up until they passed again. I tried all manner of calling and that worked the best but still wasn't really effective.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:40 am to
Well I'm no duck hunter, but I'd get in a smaller hole with less decoys and no mojo. They're probably tired of getting shot at.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

The ducks were probably looking for the
quote:
hundreds of mallards
that were in the hole. What they saw was a few sketchy looking mallards and a couple honkies. So they bailed


Kind of what I'm thinking. Reports from all over Oklahoma came back with similar results. Maybe the lack of fronts has the birds so familiar with an area that anything other than what they've been seeing for the past several weeks just makes them uncomfortable?
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:43 am to
What kind of throwback hat is that
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:55 am to
Cloudy days are tough, they likely would have finished fine if it was clear.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37721 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Maybe the lack of fronts has the birds so familiar with an area that anything other than what they've been seeing for the past several weeks just makes them uncomfortable?




That's what I would bet. Local ducks are aggravating to hunt. The bright side is you have some local ducks. We have killdeers and snipe.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

What kind of throwback hat is that

Old school camo, trucker with cord across the bill and a stitched 12 pernt. Doesn't get any better. Got it because I was on my way to Bryan's bachelor party and just needed a hat for fishing. Couldn't pass up this gem.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15815 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:07 am to
Local ducks. They been there awhile and your set up, they knew something was wrong. Had nothing to do with your calling, maybe to many decoys. I've had similar results in a small spot I used to hunt at the beginning of the second split. Birds would come in, circle just outside of range, and land about 50 yards away. You need new ducks, but you did kill deau.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:09 am to
quote:

All morning an almost identical scenario played out regardless of whether we used the mojo or not, where we were located (we moved thinking that was the problem and it didn't help), and whether or not I touched the jerk string.


I'm confused as to what this means.

You've gotten very good advice here. Assuming you guys are hidden well, it sounds like you're just not where the ducks want to be. You can have the best setup in the world, but if you're not where the ducks want to be, they're not coming.

They were probably looking for those huge numbers of birds and all they saw were a few decoys and a mojo. Next point: ditch the mojo if you're hunting local ducks. The calling advice earlier is very true too.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I'm confused as to what this means.

Just saying it didn't seem to matter where we were set up, how many decoys we used, if we used the jerk string and if the mojo was turned on. All of those variables seemed to make no difference in how the ducks responded or reacted to our calling.
Posted by 2indapink
Member since Mar 2012
541 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:25 am to
Ditch the mojo
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:26 am to
My first play would be:

Increase dekes to 24-36
Remove mojo
Get another caller on a mallard drake whistle
Make sure you're blinded in well
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Increase dekes to 24-36
Remove mojo


That would be my next tactic
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Increase dekes to 24-36



I would kind of do the exact opposite of this.

I would put just a couple of decoys up against the woods.

Are the ducks already broke on you when you see them? Ducks land in holes like this and swim off into the trees, by having decoys out in the middle it seems very fishy to them.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38641 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:36 am to
put the call in your pocket
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