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A little help with Mosin Nagants
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:39 pm
Hey fellas, I'm going to make one more firearm purchase until everything calms down(whenever the hell that is).
I've wanted to purchase a Mosin for awhile now, and finally making it a priority. Outside of shooting one about ten years ago, I dont know much about them.
What manufacturer should I go with? What model?
How much should I pay? I remember when I was younger the local gun shop use to get them in by the crate, and I think they were going for $100.
For people who own one, how do you like it?
Thanks in advance guys.
I've wanted to purchase a Mosin for awhile now, and finally making it a priority. Outside of shooting one about ten years ago, I dont know much about them.
What manufacturer should I go with? What model?
How much should I pay? I remember when I was younger the local gun shop use to get them in by the crate, and I think they were going for $100.
For people who own one, how do you like it?
Thanks in advance guys.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:41 pm to DonDraper
I was pleasantly surprised at how well mine shot. Was able to pick which one I wanted out of about 10 they had in stock. Now I cant make up my mind whether I want to have the bolt handle bent and put a scope on it or leave it as it is.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:45 pm to DonDraper
100-130 is what the 91/30's are going for. The M44's are going for more as well as 91/30's that are equipped with the original scope (sniper rifles).
They are several factories that made them in Russia most of the your 91/30's are about the same grade. The earlier models had an octogan receivers these are a little more rare and go for a higher price.
I look for good condition of the wood and barrel and I look for all numbers matching.
Other than that there is not much to think about when buying one unless you want to really become a collector of them and go after the few rare makes and models.
They are several factories that made them in Russia most of the your 91/30's are about the same grade. The earlier models had an octogan receivers these are a little more rare and go for a higher price.
I look for good condition of the wood and barrel and I look for all numbers matching.
Other than that there is not much to think about when buying one unless you want to really become a collector of them and go after the few rare makes and models.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/12/13 at 1:06 pm to TexasTiger
What he said, just look for one in the best condition and that's pretty much it. There's really not any difference between manufacturers other than possible collectibility.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 2:06 pm to DonDraper
I got one for Christmas from my wife. I'll be honest I don't really know much about guns, but I want to start collecting older guns and I figured for the price this would be a good one to start with. I have a lot of fun shooting it and it's great because if I ding it up it's nothing to cry over. I think we paid around $175 from Cabelas and to have it shipped to a FFL in town (probably a little over, but didn't want my wife to have to go through too much trouble to get it). I always heard they kicked like a mule but I have not noticed it at all. Like I said I'm by no means an expert or anything close. Get one they are fun
Posted on 3/12/13 at 9:26 pm to thedogman
Thanks fellas, good info in this thread.
Went to 5 local gunshops today, nothing. The closest I came was "I think we had one in about a month ago?".
Not sure what to do. The only ones I found online were going for over $200.
Went to 5 local gunshops today, nothing. The closest I came was "I think we had one in about a month ago?".
Not sure what to do. The only ones I found online were going for over $200.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 9:55 pm to DonDraper
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:43 pm to DonDraper
Get one made in the Tula factory. (will usually have a star)
The very best ones have an octagon-type receiver, whereas the others are rounded.
Also, look at the dates. Avoid most made during WWII. Many pieces of crap (but there are some good ones).
I like ones stamped pre-1925.
The very best ones have an octagon-type receiver, whereas the others are rounded.
Also, look at the dates. Avoid most made during WWII. Many pieces of crap (but there are some good ones).
I like ones stamped pre-1925.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:36 am to CoastieGM
I have a 9130 Iggy from 1939 i paid 130.00
Posted on 3/13/13 at 7:28 am to DonDraper
I had about 20 total before Katrina (91, 91/30, M-38 and M-44).
Right now the 91/30s are cheap and most are in excellent shape.
Also AIM has M-44s in stock at a decent price and ammo is still relatively cheap.
Best Mosin site on the net
Right now the 91/30s are cheap and most are in excellent shape.
Also AIM has M-44s in stock at a decent price and ammo is still relatively cheap.
Best Mosin site on the net
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:41 am to DonDraper
I bought a 91/30, manufactured in 1939 at the Izhevsk plant (making it one of the most common Mosins), with all the gear - tools, ammo pouches, pig sticker, sling, and spam can of 440 rounds for $180. I figure that's about $90 for the rifle and $90 for the ammo.
These guns are fun to shoot, I wouldn't worry about trying to get one with collector value. You definitely want to clean ALL the cosmoline off/out of the bolt, even if the gun has already been cleaned.
A friend of mine picked up the carbine version with the folding bayonet, but he paid a premium, and it doesn't shoot as well as mine - plus felt recoil is substantially heavier in the carbine.
These guns are fun to shoot, I wouldn't worry about trying to get one with collector value. You definitely want to clean ALL the cosmoline off/out of the bolt, even if the gun has already been cleaned.
A friend of mine picked up the carbine version with the folding bayonet, but he paid a premium, and it doesn't shoot as well as mine - plus felt recoil is substantially heavier in the carbine.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 7:30 pm to DonDraper
I have a mosin nagant in 30.06 cal. The barrel is marked Remington armory. It has a monte carlo stock. Was this gun built by Remington? I know they built guns for mosin.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:00 pm to DonDraper
I have a '42 Izzy 91/30
Love it. It shoots great and is accurate. I can shoot Minute of Pie Plate with it at 300 yards no problem.
It was imported by Century. At some point the barrel was re-crowned. The bore is dark, but the rifling is in good shape.
Copper fouling for days though... I have put so many patches soaked with Hoppe's #9 down that thing...still comes out green. It doesn't seem to affect accuracy though, just annoying that I have never got a clean patch out of the gun. Ever. LOL
The wood is even in very good shape, in terms of Mosins anyway.
I gave $89 for the gun and $89 for a 440 round spam can. I haven't opened the spam can yet, I mostly shoot Brown Bear when I can find it.
If you get a Mosin, get a good, one piece, long cleaning rod and a bore snake. Most of the ammo you find for it is corrosive and you will need to clean it well after each range trip.
Some folks pour soapy water or Windex down the barrel to neutralize the corrosion but Hoppe's #9 will work as well.
If you can find one of the imports from Century, it will come with the sling, an oil can, a few ammo pouches, bayonet, a firing pin tool, etc.
Love it. It shoots great and is accurate. I can shoot Minute of Pie Plate with it at 300 yards no problem.
It was imported by Century. At some point the barrel was re-crowned. The bore is dark, but the rifling is in good shape.
Copper fouling for days though... I have put so many patches soaked with Hoppe's #9 down that thing...still comes out green. It doesn't seem to affect accuracy though, just annoying that I have never got a clean patch out of the gun. Ever. LOL
The wood is even in very good shape, in terms of Mosins anyway.
I gave $89 for the gun and $89 for a 440 round spam can. I haven't opened the spam can yet, I mostly shoot Brown Bear when I can find it.
If you get a Mosin, get a good, one piece, long cleaning rod and a bore snake. Most of the ammo you find for it is corrosive and you will need to clean it well after each range trip.
Some folks pour soapy water or Windex down the barrel to neutralize the corrosion but Hoppe's #9 will work as well.
If you can find one of the imports from Century, it will come with the sling, an oil can, a few ammo pouches, bayonet, a firing pin tool, etc.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:09 pm to rompus
I bought a hand select hex receiver 91/30 from J&G a couple years back. Stamped 1927.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:50 pm to onelochevy
Wow....very informative info in this thread. Thanks a lot fellas, learned alot.
I'm still on the hunt though, I'll let you guys know.
I'm still on the hunt though, I'll let you guys know.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:22 pm to rompus
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If you get a Mosin, get a good, one piece, long cleaning rod and a bore snake.
Mine came with the cleaning rod, jag, muzzle protector, and the handle. Everything but the Hoppes and patches.
But yeah, a bore snake is a good idea as well.
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Some folks pour soapy water or Windex down the barrel to neutralize the corrosion but Hoppe's #9 will work as well.
This is why you still have copper fouling in the bore. The ammonia in the windex will remove the copper better than Hoppes. Hoppes is good for powder residue, but not so much for copper. When I first got my Mosin, I used a .44 wire brush instead of the .30. Dip the brush in windex, scrub the hell out of the bore, patch it, snake it. Dip it in Hoppes, scrub the hell out of it, patch it, snake it. Oil patch, then dry patch. That got my bore pretty shiny.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:48 pm to CoastieGM
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The very best ones have an octagon-type receiver, whereas the others are rounded.
Hex isn't "best". It is just rarer and therefore seen as more collectable. Probably mean there are a few million of them where there are tens of millions of the rounded receivers.
Nothing makes it better than a rounded receiver.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 2:22 pm to DonDraper
Classicfirearms had some 91/30s for $150
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